Unraveling the Root Cause to Psoriasis

hi everyone welcome to our nest next hi everyone welcome to our nest next hi everyone welcome to our nest next modules for the webinar series this modules for the webinar series this modules for the webinar series this month this is all about skin conditions month this is all about skin conditions month this is all about skin conditions so today specifically we are so today specifically we are so today specifically we are piggybacking off of our prior webinar piggybacking off of our prior webinar piggybacking off of our prior webinar which was all about eczema how it starts which was all about eczema how it starts which was all about eczema how it starts can start an infancy and progressed its can start an infancy and progressed its can start an infancy and progressed its way into adulthood but today we're way into adulthood but today we're way into adulthood but today we're talking more about psoriasis and some of talking more about psoriasis and some of talking more about psoriasis and some of the principles that we talked about last the principles that we talked about last the principles that we talked about last we can still apply to the development we can still apply to the development we can still apply to the development and onset of psoriasis but there and onset of psoriasis but there and onset of psoriasis but there actually are a lot of other factors that actually are a lot of other factors that actually are a lot of other factors that have to be considered as well into how have to be considered as well into how have to be considered as well into how this autoimmune condition does develop this autoimmune condition does develop this autoimmune condition does develop and why does it persist in certain and why does it persist in certain and why does it persist in certain people but it goes away in others so people but it goes away in others so people but it goes away in others so when it comes to autoimmunity I think when it comes to autoimmunity I think when it comes to autoimmunity I think that there is a lot of things that are that there is a lot of things that are that there is a lot of things that are misunderstood and there is a lot of lack misunderstood and there is a lot of lack misunderstood and there is a lot of lack of understanding the origin of where of understanding the origin of where of understanding the origin of where these things come from so today it's these things come from so today it's these things come from so today it's really all about uncovering some of the really all about uncovering some of the really all about uncovering some of the mystery behind psoriasis understanding mystery behind psoriasis understanding mystery behind psoriasis understanding how it manifests why it manifests and how it manifests why it manifests and how it manifests why it manifests and also one of the reasons why certain also one of the reasons why certain also one of the reasons why certain conventional therapies are not always conventional therapies are not always conventional therapies are not always going to be beneficial so I am currently going to be beneficial so I am currently going to be beneficial so I am currently on the webinar I know there are those of on the webinar I know there are those of on the webinar I know there are those of you joining me on Instagram so if you you joining me on Instagram so if you you joining me on Instagram so if you are on Instagram definitely feel free to are on Instagram definitely feel free to are on Instagram definitely feel free to leave any comments but also if you have leave any comments but also if you have leave any comments but also if you have to run out you can direct message me to run out you can direct message me to run out you can direct message me your email address so that you can get your email address so that you can get your email address so that you can get access to the full webinar for those of access to the full webinar for those of access to the full webinar for those of you on the webinar if you have questions you on the webinar if you have questions you on the webinar if you have questions that's the go definitely populate those that's the go definitely populate those that's the go definitely populate those into the chat box into the chat box into the chat box I will answer them as we go but if I I will answer them as we go but if I I will answer them as we go but if I skip over it it's because I'm probably skip over it it's because I'm probably skip over it it's because I'm probably going to cover it in the presentation going to cover it in the presentation going to cover it in the presentation okay so I'm going to kick off using my okay so I'm going to kick off using my okay so I'm going to kick off using my PowerPoint just so I do not lose track PowerPoint just so I do not lose track PowerPoint just so I do not lose track coming off of a long day of seeing coming off of a long day of seeing coming off of a long day of seeing patients but today it's really all about patients but today it's really all about patients but today it's really all about understanding psoriasis really understanding psoriasis really understanding psoriasis really understanding some of the myths around understanding some of the myths around understanding some of the myths around why these autoimmune conditions exist why these autoimmune conditions exist why these autoimmune conditions exist but also really helping you to but also really helping you to but also really helping you to understand some of the limitations with understand some of the limitations with understand some of the limitations with conventional testing and also conventional testing and also conventional testing and also limitations with the conventional limitations with the conventional limitations with the conventional therapies that exist therapies that exist therapies that exist especially before psoriasis so just so especially before psoriasis so just so especially before psoriasis so just so you know - dr. 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Nick and I do an amazing podcast integrated wellness radio so we podcast integrated wellness radio so we podcast integrated wellness radio so we are really committed to giving you guys are really committed to giving you guys are really committed to giving you guys as much content as possible not only as much content as possible not only as much content as possible not only through the webinars but also through through the webinars but also through through the webinars but also through our podcast as well so if you are our podcast as well so if you are our podcast as well so if you are looking for any additional content about looking for any additional content about looking for any additional content about psoriasis we actually have a couple of psoriasis we actually have a couple of psoriasis we actually have a couple of podcasts about it as well so just a podcasts about it as well so just a podcasts about it as well so just a little background on myself and little background on myself and little background on myself and integrative Wellness Group which is the integrative Wellness Group which is the integrative Wellness Group which is the practice that I co-owned with dr. Nick practice that I co-owned with dr. Nick practice that I co-owned with dr. Nick but really at the end of the day one of but really at the end of the day one of but really at the end of the day one of the reasons why I do these webinars in the reasons why I do these webinars in the reasons why I do these webinars in the first place is because I've always the first place is because I've always the first place is because I've always kind of pressed the boundaries with kind of pressed the boundaries with kind of pressed the boundaries with always questioning what I have been told always questioning what I have been told always questioning what I have been told and really what that comes down to is and really what that comes down to is and really what that comes down to is you know if you are a naturopath if you know if you are a naturopath if you know if you are a naturopath if you're a chiropractor if you're an you're a chiropractor if you're an you're a chiropractor if you're an acupuncturist if you are a medical acupuncturist if you are a medical acupuncturist if you are a medical doctor you all really go through the doctor you all really go through the doctor you all really go through the same foundational education and through same foundational education and through same foundational education and through that it's really just kind of the basics that it's really just kind of the basics that it's really just kind of the basics of understanding the body and physiology of understanding the body and physiology of understanding the body and physiology but when I find so fascinating is that but when I find so fascinating is that but when I find so fascinating is that we then we learn physiology we learn we then we learn physiology we learn we then we learn physiology we learn about microbiology we learn about all about microbiology we learn about all about microbiology we learn about all these things and then it's almost like these things and then it's almost like these things and then it's almost like when it comes to clinical care we're when it comes to clinical care we're when it comes to clinical care we're told to forget all of those things and told to forget all of those things and told to forget all of those things and we look at the body as this a bunch of we look at the body as this a bunch of we look at the body as this a bunch of separate systems and very often I just separate systems and very often I just separate systems and very often I just kept feeling like this doesn't make kept feeling like this doesn't make kept feeling like this doesn't make sense and when I got into clinical sense and when I got into clinical sense and when I got into clinical practice and I started dealing with practice and I started dealing with practice and I started dealing with real-life patients it was even more real-life patients it was even more real-life patients it was even more prevalent that things didn't make sense prevalent that things didn't make sense prevalent that things didn't make sense so we really kept challenging and so we really kept challenging and so we really kept challenging and evolving our own practices by asking evolving our own practices by asking evolving our own practices by asking better questions and really what got us better questions and really what got us better questions and really what got us where we are today is we've really where we are today is we've really where we are today is we've really stopped looking at the body as a stopped looking at the body as a stopped looking at the body as a segregation of systems and really segregation of systems and really segregation of systems and really understanding that everything is understanding that everything is understanding that everything is constantly in communication with each constantly in communication with each constantly in communication with each other and this is really congruent when other and this is really congruent when other and this is really congruent when it comes to conditions like psoriasis it comes to conditions like psoriasis it comes to conditions like psoriasis psoriasis you're looking at the skin or psoriasis you're looking at the skin or psoriasis you're looking at the skin or at least for a period of time it's all at least for a period of time it's all at least for a period of time it's all about the skin the skin the skin and about the skin the skin the skin and about the skin the skin the skin and then it becomes about immunology when then it becomes about immunology when then it becomes about immunology when they realize it is an autoimmune they realize it is an autoimmune they realize it is an autoimmune condition condition condition and we're pretty much assuming that and we're pretty much assuming that and we're pretty much assuming that because it's manifesting on the skin because it's manifesting on the skin because it's manifesting on the skin that it's a topical skin issue and it's that it's a topical skin issue and it's that it's a topical skin issue and it's not internal which is really what keeps not internal which is really what keeps not internal which is really what keeps us hitting these roadblocks with helping us hitting these roadblocks with helping us hitting these roadblocks with helping people to recover from psoriasis so for people to recover from psoriasis so for people to recover from psoriasis so for myself I'm not necessarily just an myself I'm not necessarily just an myself I'm not necessarily just an autoimmune doctor I don't only deal with autoimmune doctor I don't only deal with autoimmune doctor I don't only deal with psoriasis cases I deal with a variety of psoriasis cases I deal with a variety of psoriasis cases I deal with a variety of different types of patients I deal with different types of patients I deal with different types of patients I deal with everything from Lyme disease to mold everything from Lyme disease to mold everything from Lyme disease to mold toxicity to neurological conditions toxicity to neurological conditions toxicity to neurological conditions hormonal issues and I deal with these hormonal issues and I deal with these hormonal issues and I deal with these different conditions because I look different conditions because I look different conditions because I look beyond the symptoms and I look beyond beyond the symptoms and I look beyond beyond the symptoms and I look beyond one body system and I connect the dots one body system and I connect the dots one body system and I connect the dots as to how everything is playing into as to how everything is playing into as to how everything is playing into each other and how these different each other and how these different each other and how these different manifestations are these different manifestations are these different manifestations are these different diagnoses where they actually stem from diagnoses where they actually stem from diagnoses where they actually stem from what is the actual root cause and we do what is the actual root cause and we do what is the actual root cause and we do this by leveraging very unique and this by leveraging very unique and this by leveraging very unique and customized testing but also realizing customized testing but also realizing customized testing but also realizing that every single one of you are that every single one of you are that every single one of you are different every single person needs a different every single person needs a different every single person needs a customized approach so I could have five customized approach so I could have five customized approach so I could have five people that have psoriasis but their people that have psoriasis but their people that have psoriasis but their approach is going to be completely approach is going to be completely approach is going to be completely different because I need to consider or different because I need to consider or different because I need to consider or what exactly so it's not really just what exactly so it's not really just what exactly so it's not really just about working with clients and helping about working with clients and helping about working with clients and helping them to understand this methodology and them to understand this methodology and them to understand this methodology and this this concept of integrative this this concept of integrative this this concept of integrative medicine but we've launched actually our medicine but we've launched actually our medicine but we've launched actually our teaching platform to really help other teaching platform to really help other teaching platform to really help other physicians to think outside the box physicians to think outside the box physicians to think outside the box and really be able to offer this type of and really be able to offer this type of and really be able to offer this type of care everywhere because it's so so care everywhere because it's so so care everywhere because it's so so important half of you that are listening important half of you that are listening important half of you that are listening right now you've been on a right now you've been on a right now you've been on a merry-go-round you've been on a merry-go-round you've been on a merry-go-round you've been on a merry-go-round of doctors that don't merry-go-round of doctors that don't merry-go-round of doctors that don't necessarily understand the root cause necessarily understand the root cause necessarily understand the root cause you may have even been told that it's in you may have even been told that it's in you may have even been told that it's in your head maybe you're depressed you've your head maybe you're depressed you've your head maybe you're depressed you've been told to maybe go on an been told to maybe go on an been told to maybe go on an antidepressant or you've been on a antidepressant or you've been on a antidepressant or you've been on a merry-go-round of a bunch of different merry-go-round of a bunch of different merry-go-round of a bunch of different immunosuppressants also known as immunosuppressants also known as immunosuppressants also known as biologics and some of them gave you biologics and some of them gave you biologics and some of them gave you results and then you plateaued or they results and then you plateaued or they results and then you plateaued or they didn't work at all and you still don't didn't work at all and you still don't didn't work at all and you still don't know what the heck is causing your know what the heck is causing your know what the heck is causing your psoriasis so trust me I've heard it a psoriasis so trust me I've heard it a psoriasis so trust me I've heard it a million million million these are the patients that I see coming these are the patients that I see coming these are the patients that I see coming through my doors and my goal of these through my doors and my goal of these through my doors and my goal of these webinars is to get for you to get here webinars is to get for you to get here webinars is to get for you to get here before you're exhausted before you're before you're exhausted before you're before you're exhausted before you're just pretty much given up at that point just pretty much given up at that point just pretty much given up at that point so just a little bit about myself for me so just a little bit about myself for me so just a little bit about myself for me I did not necessarily get into this I did not necessarily get into this I did not necessarily get into this industry because I had psoriasis or industry because I had psoriasis or industry because I had psoriasis or because I was an overly sick person that because I was an overly sick person that because I was an overly sick person that eventually was healed through functional eventually was healed through functional eventually was healed through functional and integrative medicine if anything I and integrative medicine if anything I and integrative medicine if anything I almost felt a bit guilty about not almost felt a bit guilty about not almost felt a bit guilty about not having that story when I was going having that story when I was going having that story when I was going through school because I felt like all through school because I felt like all through school because I felt like all of my colleagues had that story of oh my of my colleagues had that story of oh my of my colleagues had that story of oh my gosh nobody could figure out what's gosh nobody could figure out what's gosh nobody could figure out what's wrong with me and then a functional wrong with me and then a functional wrong with me and then a functional doctor helps me and I remember when I doctor helps me and I remember when I doctor helps me and I remember when I finally did my own testing and this was finally did my own testing and this was finally did my own testing and this was way later down the line this was even way later down the line this was even way later down the line this was even after school that I did my testing and I after school that I did my testing and I after school that I did my testing and I thought it was gonna come back perfect I thought it was gonna come back perfect I thought it was gonna come back perfect I honestly thought I was in perfect health honestly thought I was in perfect health honestly thought I was in perfect health to what I knew and when my testing came to what I knew and when my testing came to what I knew and when my testing came back it turned out that I didn't have a back it turned out that I didn't have a back it turned out that I didn't have a lot of things going on but what I lot of things going on but what I lot of things going on but what I realized in that moment is that most of realized in that moment is that most of realized in that moment is that most of my symptoms were my normal most of my my symptoms were my normal most of my my symptoms were my normal most of my symptoms were things that all of you are symptoms were things that all of you are symptoms were things that all of you are dealing with a lot of them had to do dealing with a lot of them had to do dealing with a lot of them had to do with oh I accepted my you know bloating with oh I accepted my you know bloating with oh I accepted my you know bloating I accepted my occasional headaches I I accepted my occasional headaches I I accepted my occasional headaches I accepted my crappy sleep I accepted my accepted my crappy sleep I accepted my accepted my crappy sleep I accepted my brain fog I just thought they were brain fog I just thought they were brain fog I just thought they were normal because they came and they went normal because they came and they went normal because they came and they went and nothing was overly severe and I and nothing was overly severe and I and nothing was overly severe and I learned how to pretty much navigate learned how to pretty much navigate learned how to pretty much navigate through those things so it's very through those things so it's very through those things so it's very interesting because when I talk to my interesting because when I talk to my interesting because when I talk to my patients I realize that there are so patients I realize that there are so patients I realize that there are so many things that they have also settled many things that they have also settled many things that they have also settled for they're usually here for a problem for they're usually here for a problem for they're usually here for a problem but in addition to that problem there but in addition to that problem there but in addition to that problem there are so many other components that are so many other components that are so many other components that they're dealing with that are just they're dealing with that are just they're dealing with that are just they're normal so at this point in time they're normal so at this point in time they're normal so at this point in time we are ten past seven there is a lot of we are ten past seven there is a lot of we are ten past seven there is a lot of things going on in our household and things going on in our household and things going on in our household and there is a lot of distractions some of there is a lot of distractions some of there is a lot of distractions some of you might still be working you might you might still be working you might you might still be working you might have your email browser open you might have your email browser open you might have your email browser open you might have dogs barking and spouse is looking have dogs barking and spouse is looking have dogs barking and spouse is looking for dinner but give me the next 25 for dinner but give me the next 25 for dinner but give me the next 25 minutes of your time because the things minutes of your time because the things minutes of your time because the things that I'm going to go through in that I'm going to go through in that I'm going to go through in reference to psoriasis are not your reference to psoriasis are not your reference to psoriasis are not your run-of-the-mill information I'm not run-of-the-mill information I'm not run-of-the-mill information I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that if gonna sit here and tell you that if gonna sit here and tell you that if everybody goes through and free that you everybody goes through and free that you everybody goes through and free that you know all of us rise is is gonna know all of us rise is is gonna know all of us rise is is gonna disappear because again this is not disappear because again this is not disappear because again this is not about a blanket approach this is not about a blanket approach this is not about a blanket approach this is not about a cookie cutter protocol this is about a cookie cutter protocol this is about a cookie cutter protocol this is understanding some of the foundational understanding some of the foundational understanding some of the foundational reasons for these skin issues and reasons for these skin issues and reasons for these skin issues and secondary to that it's really about secondary to that it's really about secondary to that it's really about understanding that every single person understanding that every single person understanding that every single person has needs a customized approach so first has needs a customized approach so first has needs a customized approach so first and foremost for those of you that are and foremost for those of you that are and foremost for those of you that are here because you have it on the here because you have it on the here because you have it on the merry-go-round and you haven't been able merry-go-round and you haven't been able merry-go-round and you haven't been able to really understand where your to really understand where your to really understand where your psoriasis came from why it exists why is psoriasis came from why it exists why is psoriasis came from why it exists why is it not getting better it is not your it not getting better it is not your it not getting better it is not your fault fault fault because chances are you have not had because chances are you have not had because chances are you have not had better comprehensive testing nobody is better comprehensive testing nobody is better comprehensive testing nobody is asking you better questions and nobody asking you better questions and nobody asking you better questions and nobody is giving you any type of strategies is giving you any type of strategies is giving you any type of strategies that are beyond the cookie cutter that are beyond the cookie cutter that are beyond the cookie cutter approach they're maybe giving you an approach they're maybe giving you an approach they're maybe giving you an immunosuppressant they're maybe giving immunosuppressant they're maybe giving immunosuppressant they're maybe giving it a steroid but nothing is digging it a steroid but nothing is digging it a steroid but nothing is digging deeper than that so it is not your fault deeper than that so it is not your fault deeper than that so it is not your fault that you've hit roadblocks it's not your that you've hit roadblocks it's not your that you've hit roadblocks it's not your fault that you've hit plateaus so that fault that you've hit plateaus so that fault that you've hit plateaus so that is why you are here now so that you can is why you are here now so that you can is why you are here now so that you can walk away was it truly an understanding walk away was it truly an understanding walk away was it truly an understanding I'm where the heck did this come from I'm where the heck did this come from I'm where the heck did this come from and why is it persisting so a basic and why is it persisting so a basic and why is it persisting so a basic principle that I've pretty much already principle that I've pretty much already principle that I've pretty much already briefly touched on is in relation to briefly touched on is in relation to briefly touched on is in relation to just understanding the content that just understanding the content that just understanding the content that we're gonna get into so number one is we're gonna get into so number one is we're gonna get into so number one is most of medicine is based off of most of medicine is based off of most of medicine is based off of specialists so you have a heart problem specialists so you have a heart problem specialists so you have a heart problem you're going to a cardiologist you have you're going to a cardiologist you have you're going to a cardiologist you have an immune system problem you're going to an immune system problem you're going to an immune system problem you're going to immunologist you do have a brain problem immunologist you do have a brain problem immunologist you do have a brain problem you're gonna go to neurologists but you're gonna go to neurologists but you're gonna go to neurologists but nobody is talking to each other nobody nobody is talking to each other nobody nobody is talking to each other nobody is piecing the puzzle together and we is piecing the puzzle together and we is piecing the puzzle together and we are ignoring basic physiology and the are ignoring basic physiology and the are ignoring basic physiology and the most basic example I can give you is most basic example I can give you is most basic example I can give you is that most of your feel-good hormone that most of your feel-good hormone that most of your feel-good hormone called serotonin is made in your gut so called serotonin is made in your gut so called serotonin is made in your gut so if most of your feel-good hormone is if most of your feel-good hormone is if most of your feel-good hormone is made in your gut and you have depression made in your gut and you have depression made in your gut and you have depression but you also have gut issues but your but you also have gut issues but your but you also have gut issues but your gut issues are not bad enough to be gut issues are not bad enough to be gut issues are not bad enough to be dealt with dealt with dealt with then you easily are taking a medication then you easily are taking a medication then you easily are taking a medication to cover up a symptom of your gut issues to cover up a symptom of your gut issues to cover up a symptom of your gut issues so this is not just that this is so many so this is not just that this is so many so this is not just that this is so many so many so many so many lera t is to how we're using medicine lera t is to how we're using medicine lera t is to how we're using medicine we're using it as a way to cover up we're using it as a way to cover up we're using it as a way to cover up symptoms that are completely ignoring symptoms that are completely ignoring symptoms that are completely ignoring basic physiology and ignoring the root basic physiology and ignoring the root basic physiology and ignoring the root cause and we also need to go away from cause and we also need to go away from cause and we also need to go away from this idea that there's just going to be this idea that there's just going to be this idea that there's just going to be this one magical pill that's going to this one magical pill that's going to this one magical pill that's going to fix everything for us this is what has fix everything for us this is what has fix everything for us this is what has gotten most of us to the place that we gotten most of us to the place that we gotten most of us to the place that we are now but it's also why we are living are now but it's also why we are living are now but it's also why we are living in a massive epidemic of chronic illness in a massive epidemic of chronic illness in a massive epidemic of chronic illness there are so many people sick there are there are so many people sick there are there are so many people sick there are more food allergies than ever there is more food allergies than ever there is more food allergies than ever there is more autoimmune conditions than ever and more autoimmune conditions than ever and more autoimmune conditions than ever and I think the scariest one is there is so I think the scariest one is there is so I think the scariest one is there is so much neurological decline there is this much neurological decline there is this much neurological decline there is this serious issue with how many people are serious issue with how many people are serious issue with how many people are developing Alzheimer's dementia developing Alzheimer's dementia developing Alzheimer's dementia Parkinson's and it's happening younger Parkinson's and it's happening younger Parkinson's and it's happening younger and younger and we need to take a step and younger and we need to take a step and younger and we need to take a step back and ask why why is this happening back and ask why why is this happening back and ask why why is this happening why is this such an issue and part of it why is this such an issue and part of it why is this such an issue and part of it is that we don't have or most doctors is that we don't have or most doctors is that we don't have or most doctors aren't using better testing to look at aren't using better testing to look at aren't using better testing to look at what's happening inside of us so with what's happening inside of us so with what's happening inside of us so with that being said I'm actually realizing that being said I'm actually realizing that being said I'm actually realizing that the correct PowerPoint is not even that the correct PowerPoint is not even that the correct PowerPoint is not even here so I'm actually gonna pull it up on here so I'm actually gonna pull it up on here so I'm actually gonna pull it up on my other computer so that I don't my other computer so that I don't my other computer so that I don't completely derail but I think that you completely derail but I think that you completely derail but I think that you know some of the principles that I know some of the principles that I know some of the principles that I actually talked about in the past actually talked about in the past actually talked about in the past webinar that was about eczema really webinar that was about eczema really webinar that was about eczema really some of those principles actually still some of those principles actually still some of those principles actually still apply here and really first and foremost apply here and really first and foremost apply here and really first and foremost is that you may have had psoriasis is that you may have had psoriasis is that you may have had psoriasis developed later down the line but you developed later down the line but you developed later down the line but you potentially had that brewing in the potentially had that brewing in the potentially had that brewing in the background since literally being in the background since literally being in the background since literally being in the womb and what I mean by that is that you womb and what I mean by that is that you womb and what I mean by that is that you can literally have specific types of can literally have specific types of can literally have specific types of toxins that are in the amniotic fluid toxins that are in the amniotic fluid toxins that are in the amniotic fluid aka the fluid that the baby is floating aka the fluid that the baby is floating aka the fluid that the baby is floating in that can be a contributing factor to in that can be a contributing factor to in that can be a contributing factor to the immune system being compromised the immune system being compromised the immune system being compromised which then leads to a variety of issues which then leads to a variety of issues which then leads to a variety of issues with the immune system down the line with the immune system down the line with the immune system down the line which then results in autoimmune which then results in autoimmune which then results in autoimmune conditions like psoriasis but another conditions like psoriasis but another conditions like psoriasis but another big part of that too is that there is big part of that too is that there is big part of that too is that there is definitely so many things that can be definitely so many things that can be definitely so many things that can be that can play a role as to that can play a role as to that can play a role as to where the birth happens and the where the birth happens and the where the birth happens and the conditions of the birth so when someone conditions of the birth so when someone conditions of the birth so when someone has there is born in a hospital bottom has there is born in a hospital bottom has there is born in a hospital bottom line you were being exposed to a ton of line you were being exposed to a ton of line you were being exposed to a ton of Hospital bacteria so that hospital Hospital bacteria so that hospital Hospital bacteria so that hospital bacteria is a combination of strep and bacteria is a combination of strep and bacteria is a combination of strep and staffs and in addition to that if you staffs and in addition to that if you staffs and in addition to that if you were a c-section or your child was a were a c-section or your child was a were a c-section or your child was a c-section and they did not go through c-section and they did not go through c-section and they did not go through the birth canal where they got exposed the birth canal where they got exposed the birth canal where they got exposed to a variety of good bacteria then to a variety of good bacteria then to a variety of good bacteria then pretty much what happens is they have a pretty much what happens is they have a pretty much what happens is they have a lack of the good bacteria which then lack of the good bacteria which then lack of the good bacteria which then protects them from the bad bacteria so protects them from the bad bacteria so protects them from the bad bacteria so now they're actually going to have a now they're actually going to have a now they're actually going to have a combination of not enough good and too combination of not enough good and too combination of not enough good and too much of the bad and this is just setting much of the bad and this is just setting much of the bad and this is just setting the pace for an abnormal skin microbiome the pace for an abnormal skin microbiome the pace for an abnormal skin microbiome aka they have too much bad bacteria on aka they have too much bad bacteria on aka they have too much bad bacteria on their skin which makes them susceptible their skin which makes them susceptible their skin which makes them susceptible to eczema which then can lead into to eczema which then can lead into to eczema which then can lead into psoriasis later then they also have an psoriasis later then they also have an psoriasis later then they also have an abnormal microbiome happening internally abnormal microbiome happening internally abnormal microbiome happening internally so all that that means is too much bad so all that that means is too much bad so all that that means is too much bad not enough good and then on top of it is not enough good and then on top of it is not enough good and then on top of it is most of us have been on antibiotics at most of us have been on antibiotics at most of us have been on antibiotics at some point in time we're on antibiotics some point in time we're on antibiotics some point in time we're on antibiotics maybe because we had a lot of ear maybe because we had a lot of ear maybe because we had a lot of ear infections as kid maybe it's because we infections as kid maybe it's because we infections as kid maybe it's because we have a variety of throat issues have a variety of throat issues have a variety of throat issues maybe it's because of upper respiratory maybe it's because of upper respiratory maybe it's because of upper respiratory infections or maybe it was because mom infections or maybe it was because mom infections or maybe it was because mom had droopy strap and you going through had droopy strap and you going through had droopy strap and you going through the birth canal exposed you to that so the birth canal exposed you to that so the birth canal exposed you to that so the antibiotics is something that is a the antibiotics is something that is a the antibiotics is something that is a further catalyst for wiping out more of further catalyst for wiping out more of further catalyst for wiping out more of the good bacteria so antibiotics I know the good bacteria so antibiotics I know the good bacteria so antibiotics I know we're supposed to target bad bacteria we're supposed to target bad bacteria we're supposed to target bad bacteria but they're not biased antibiotics are but they're not biased antibiotics are but they're not biased antibiotics are also going to wipe out the good bacteria also going to wipe out the good bacteria also going to wipe out the good bacteria and one of the things that is super or I and one of the things that is super or I and one of the things that is super or I should say not very well known about should say not very well known about should say not very well known about antibiotics is most antibiotics are made antibiotics is most antibiotics are made antibiotics is most antibiotics are made from mold mold is also known as fungus from mold mold is also known as fungus from mold mold is also known as fungus same family as yeast so this is why when same family as yeast so this is why when same family as yeast so this is why when women take antibiotics sometimes they women take antibiotics sometimes they women take antibiotics sometimes they get a yeast infection so the reason is get a yeast infection so the reason is get a yeast infection so the reason is is that your antibiotics especially is that your antibiotics especially is that your antibiotics especially things that are in the sill and things that are in the sill and things that are in the sill and penicillin amoxicillin ampicillin all of penicillin amoxicillin ampicillin all of penicillin amoxicillin ampicillin all of these antibiotics are actually made from these antibiotics are actually made from these antibiotics are actually made from a mold called penicillin a mold called penicillin a mold called penicillin so when you take a lot of antibiotics so when you take a lot of antibiotics so when you take a lot of antibiotics not only are you wiping out a lot of not only are you wiping out a lot of not only are you wiping out a lot of your good bacteria but in addition to your good bacteria but in addition to your good bacteria but in addition to that you were in in my present within that you were in in my present within that you were in in my present within the body so you if you can't tell is the body so you if you can't tell is the body so you if you can't tell is you're completely altering the ecosystem you're completely altering the ecosystem you're completely altering the ecosystem of your body and that ecosystem doesn't of your body and that ecosystem doesn't of your body and that ecosystem doesn't get better it doesn't just work itself get better it doesn't just work itself get better it doesn't just work itself out you need to actually use specific out you need to actually use specific out you need to actually use specific tools to balance it out so the tools to balance it out so the tools to balance it out so the interesting thing about this too is that interesting thing about this too is that interesting thing about this too is that formula as well as breast milk they both formula as well as breast milk they both formula as well as breast milk they both have a lot of sugar in them yes even have a lot of sugar in them yes even have a lot of sugar in them yes even breast milk does so breast milk has breast milk does so breast milk has breast milk does so breast milk has sugar in it because or I should say sugar in it because or I should say sugar in it because or I should say disaccharides it has those sugars disaccharides it has those sugars disaccharides it has those sugars because the sugars are supposed to feed because the sugars are supposed to feed because the sugars are supposed to feed the good bacteria in the body or in the the good bacteria in the body or in the the good bacteria in the body or in the baby's body but if the baby all has baby's body but if the baby all has baby's body but if the baby all has already been exposed to a variety of bad already been exposed to a variety of bad already been exposed to a variety of bad bacteria then the sugars in the formula bacteria then the sugars in the formula bacteria then the sugars in the formula or breast meat breast milk are actually or breast meat breast milk are actually or breast meat breast milk are actually going to feed the bad bacteria as well going to feed the bad bacteria as well going to feed the bad bacteria as well so then this creates a further catalyst so then this creates a further catalyst so then this creates a further catalyst to the problem becoming bigger and to the problem becoming bigger and to the problem becoming bigger and bigger so this is just very important to bigger so this is just very important to bigger so this is just very important to understand that this can literally be understand that this can literally be understand that this can literally be happening right out of the gate and happening right out of the gate and happening right out of the gate and maybe it starts out as an occasional maybe it starts out as an occasional maybe it starts out as an occasional rash maybe it starts out as an rash maybe it starts out as an rash maybe it starts out as an occasional high breakout and then all of occasional high breakout and then all of occasional high breakout and then all of a sudden now you're in your teens or a sudden now you're in your teens or a sudden now you're in your teens or your 20s and you have full-blown your 20s and you have full-blown your 20s and you have full-blown psoriasis so it's usually not that skin psoriasis so it's usually not that skin psoriasis so it's usually not that skin issues come completely out of nowhere issues come completely out of nowhere issues come completely out of nowhere that usually will stem from other issues that usually will stem from other issues that usually will stem from other issues the other thing too is vaccinations can the other thing too is vaccinations can the other thing too is vaccinations can play a role mainly because of the play a role mainly because of the play a role mainly because of the immature immune system so it's not that immature immune system so it's not that immature immune system so it's not that I'm Pro I'm Pro I'm Pro anti-anything it's more so to understand anti-anything it's more so to understand anti-anything it's more so to understand that if the baby has already had all of that if the baby has already had all of that if the baby has already had all of these other factors that their immune these other factors that their immune these other factors that their immune system is stressed because of too much system is stressed because of too much system is stressed because of too much bad bacteria and not enough good then bad bacteria and not enough good then bad bacteria and not enough good then when you bring in these inoculations to when you bring in these inoculations to when you bring in these inoculations to help to protect them against viruses help to protect them against viruses help to protect them against viruses sometimes the immune system is already sometimes the immune system is already sometimes the immune system is already stressed and it's just kind of like the stressed and it's just kind of like the stressed and it's just kind of like the body's like whoa whoa whoa this is body's like whoa whoa whoa this is body's like whoa whoa whoa this is really really overwhelming so let me see really really overwhelming so let me see really really overwhelming so let me see I'm like I have no idea how I uploaded I'm like I have no idea how I uploaded I'm like I have no idea how I uploaded the wrong thing but I did so I'm the wrong thing but I did so I'm the wrong thing but I did so I'm actually gonna even just stop this actually gonna even just stop this actually gonna even just stop this presentation and move my computer this presentation and move my computer this presentation and move my computer this way so I can actually just go for it and way so I can actually just go for it and way so I can actually just go for it and blue need all of the other screen so the blue need all of the other screen so the blue need all of the other screen so the other big thing too that comes too other big thing too that comes too other big thing too that comes too specifically to psoriasis is that specifically to psoriasis is that specifically to psoriasis is that there's an emotional component and there's an emotional component and there's an emotional component and people don't realize this because there people don't realize this because there people don't realize this because there is not a lot of talk about how different is not a lot of talk about how different is not a lot of talk about how different emotional pieces can tie into physical emotional pieces can tie into physical emotional pieces can tie into physical health if anything most doctors would health if anything most doctors would health if anything most doctors would completely laugh at that concept but one completely laugh at that concept but one completely laugh at that concept but one of the interesting things that I've seen of the interesting things that I've seen of the interesting things that I've seen as a common denominator in our psoriasis as a common denominator in our psoriasis as a common denominator in our psoriasis patients is not feeling comfortable in patients is not feeling comfortable in patients is not feeling comfortable in their own skin and this is not their own skin and this is not their own skin and this is not necessarily about their looks this is necessarily about their looks this is necessarily about their looks this is sometimes about their upbringing it's sometimes about their upbringing it's sometimes about their upbringing it's about always having a lot of pressure on about always having a lot of pressure on about always having a lot of pressure on them it's not being able to meet the them it's not being able to meet the them it's not being able to meet the expectations that their parents had it expectations that their parents had it expectations that their parents had it has to do with verbal abuse from a has to do with verbal abuse from a has to do with verbal abuse from a spouse or a past boyfriend/girlfriend spouse or a past boyfriend/girlfriend spouse or a past boyfriend/girlfriend etc so there is definitely a layer there etc so there is definitely a layer there etc so there is definitely a layer there that has to be considered that is often that has to be considered that is often that has to be considered that is often being completely ignored and this is not being completely ignored and this is not being completely ignored and this is not just the case for psoriasis this is for just the case for psoriasis this is for just the case for psoriasis this is for a lot of elements because most of the a lot of elements because most of the a lot of elements because most of the time when I do my consultation I dig and time when I do my consultation I dig and time when I do my consultation I dig and ask a lot of questions and one of the ask a lot of questions and one of the ask a lot of questions and one of the questions that I ask is in relation to questions that I ask is in relation to questions that I ask is in relation to okay when this all started is there okay when this all started is there okay when this all started is there anything specific that I should know anything specific that I should know anything specific that I should know about stress different types of about stress different types of about stress different types of emotional traumas was there any type of emotional traumas was there any type of emotional traumas was there any type of divorce loss of a loved one loss of a divorce loss of a loved one loss of a divorce loss of a loved one loss of a pet pet pet anything like that and a lot of times anything like that and a lot of times anything like that and a lot of times there was some specific catalyst from an there was some specific catalyst from an there was some specific catalyst from an emotional perspective that really just emotional perspective that really just emotional perspective that really just was the straw that broke the camel's was the straw that broke the camel's was the straw that broke the camel's back and set a lot of the symptoms into back and set a lot of the symptoms into back and set a lot of the symptoms into motion I'm not gonna sit here and say motion I'm not gonna sit here and say motion I'm not gonna sit here and say that that is the case for everyone but that that is the case for everyone but that that is the case for everyone but it is definitely something to be it is definitely something to be it is definitely something to be considered another component to skin considered another component to skin considered another component to skin issues that is being completely issues that is being completely issues that is being completely overlooked is the health of the overlooked is the health of the overlooked is the health of the lymphatic system so let me keep this lymphatic system so let me keep this lymphatic system so let me keep this like as simple as possible is you have like as simple as possible is you have like as simple as possible is you have lymph nodes everywhere most of the time lymph nodes everywhere most of the time lymph nodes everywhere most of the time we're aware of our lymph nodes when we we're aware of our lymph nodes when we we're aware of our lymph nodes when we get sick in our neck hurts and all of get sick in our neck hurts and all of get sick in our neck hurts and all of these glands get swollen you have lymph these glands get swollen you have lymph these glands get swollen you have lymph nodes literally from the top of your nodes literally from the top of your nodes literally from the top of your head all the way to your toes your lymph head all the way to your toes your lymph head all the way to your toes your lymph is very superficial okay it's very close is very superficial okay it's very close is very superficial okay it's very close to your skin so your limbs being one of to your skin so your limbs being one of to your skin so your limbs being one of the biggest filters of your body if it the biggest filters of your body if it the biggest filters of your body if it was if it's constantly filtering out bad was if it's constantly filtering out bad was if it's constantly filtering out bad stuff that you're being exposed to maybe stuff that you're being exposed to maybe stuff that you're being exposed to maybe you live in a moldy environment have no you live in a moldy environment have no you live in a moldy environment have no idea maybe you are being exposed to idea maybe you are being exposed to idea maybe you are being exposed to different types of chemicals because you different types of chemicals because you different types of chemicals because you work as a mechanic because you work in a work as a mechanic because you work in a work as a mechanic because you work in a hair salon and you're constantly getting hair salon and you're constantly getting hair salon and you're constantly getting exposed to different toxins that means exposed to different toxins that means exposed to different toxins that means your lymphatic system constantly has to your lymphatic system constantly has to your lymphatic system constantly has to filter filter filter so if you think filter filter filter so if you think filter filter filter so if you think about a vacuum you have a vacuum if it about a vacuum you have a vacuum if it about a vacuum you have a vacuum if it has a filter in it if you keep using has a filter in it if you keep using has a filter in it if you keep using that vacuum the filter is gonna get more that vacuum the filter is gonna get more that vacuum the filter is gonna get more and more full it's gonna get to the and more full it's gonna get to the and more full it's gonna get to the point that even though your vacuum is point that even though your vacuum is point that even though your vacuum is fine and there's nothing mechanically fine and there's nothing mechanically fine and there's nothing mechanically wrong with it it doesn't work well wrong with it it doesn't work well wrong with it it doesn't work well anymore because the filter is at max anymore because the filter is at max anymore because the filter is at max capacity the same thing happens with our capacity the same thing happens with our capacity the same thing happens with our bodies the same thing happens bodies the same thing happens bodies the same thing happens specifically with our lymphatic system specifically with our lymphatic system specifically with our lymphatic system it can also happen with our liver and it can also happen with our liver and it can also happen with our liver and our kidneys so if your lymph is our kidneys so if your lymph is our kidneys so if your lymph is completely compromised there's a couple completely compromised there's a couple completely compromised there's a couple of symptoms to look out for number one of symptoms to look out for number one of symptoms to look out for number one is you don't sweat anymore if anything is you don't sweat anymore if anything is you don't sweat anymore if anything you go to the gym and you glisten I used you go to the gym and you glisten I used you go to the gym and you glisten I used to do that I used to think it was great to do that I used to think it was great to do that I used to think it was great but what I didn't realize is that my but what I didn't realize is that my but what I didn't realize is that my limbs don't work you also might have limbs don't work you also might have limbs don't work you also might have water retention you might have water water retention you might have water water retention you might have water retention when you fly you might have retention when you fly you might have retention when you fly you might have varicose veins you might have cold hands varicose veins you might have cold hands varicose veins you might have cold hands and feet as a female you might have and feet as a female you might have and feet as a female you might have dense Brown dense Brown dense Brown fibrocystic breasts you might have neck fibrocystic breasts you might have neck fibrocystic breasts you might have neck pain all the time but when you press on pain all the time but when you press on pain all the time but when you press on your neck a lot of you feel like lumpy your neck a lot of you feel like lumpy your neck a lot of you feel like lumpy almost those are all signs that you almost those are all signs that you almost those are all signs that you actually have a compromised lymphatic actually have a compromised lymphatic actually have a compromised lymphatic system so that is a key key key system system so that is a key key key system system so that is a key key key system that has to be looked at in psoriasis that has to be looked at in psoriasis that has to be looked at in psoriasis and other types of skin conditions and other types of skin conditions and other types of skin conditions because you're trying to fix the skin because you're trying to fix the skin because you're trying to fix the skin topical topical topical but in reality topical topical topical but in reality topical topical topical but in reality its internal it's always internal so its internal it's always internal so its internal it's always internal so don't ever think that like you're don't ever think that like you're don't ever think that like you're excluded from that there is always excluded from that there is always excluded from that there is always something happening internally it's an something happening internally it's an something happening internally it's an immune system issue it's not a skin immune system issue it's not a skin immune system issue it's not a skin issue it's an immune system issue so the issue it's an immune system issue so the issue it's an immune system issue so the other big one too is that there are very other big one too is that there are very other big one too is that there are very specific types of infections that can be specific types of infections that can be specific types of infections that can be associated with psoriasis and I just did associated with psoriasis and I just did associated with psoriasis and I just did a podcast that is the great imitator of a podcast that is the great imitator of a podcast that is the great imitator of psoriasis so I'm going to talk a bit psoriasis so I'm going to talk a bit psoriasis so I'm going to talk a bit more more about that in the next few more more about that in the next few more more about that in the next few minutes but just you know there is a minutes but just you know there is a minutes but just you know there is a completely separate podcast they didn't completely separate podcast they didn't completely separate podcast they didn't do about it so really first and foremost do about it so really first and foremost do about it so really first and foremost is when we kind of like get into the is when we kind of like get into the is when we kind of like get into the nitty-gritty of some of the things that nitty-gritty of some of the things that nitty-gritty of some of the things that we already talked about so number one we already talked about so number one we already talked about so number one saying that okay skin conditions can saying that okay skin conditions can saying that okay skin conditions can start in the womb in studies this is not start in the womb in studies this is not start in the womb in studies this is not my opinion and studies they have done my opinion and studies they have done my opinion and studies they have done they have actually found up to a hundred they have actually found up to a hundred they have actually found up to a hundred and seventy two chemicals in the fluid and seventy two chemicals in the fluid and seventy two chemicals in the fluid that your baby grows in that your body that your baby grows in that your body that your baby grows in that your body that your baby develops them so I hate that your baby develops them so I hate that your baby develops them so I hate to tell all of you guys but we were all to tell all of you guys but we were all to tell all of you guys but we were all born toxic it's just unfortunate that born toxic it's just unfortunate that born toxic it's just unfortunate that that's the reality of it but we're we've that's the reality of it but we're we've that's the reality of it but we're we've all been born toxic to some capacity and all been born toxic to some capacity and all been born toxic to some capacity and our children have been born toxic to our children have been born toxic to our children have been born toxic to some capacity what I do testing with my some capacity what I do testing with my some capacity what I do testing with my patients and we find things like mercury patients and we find things like mercury patients and we find things like mercury and the like I don't understand how do I and the like I don't understand how do I and the like I don't understand how do I add mercury I don't even eat fish I have add mercury I don't even eat fish I have add mercury I don't even eat fish I have no fillings in my teeth and I'm like you no fillings in my teeth and I'm like you no fillings in my teeth and I'm like you were probably born with it and they're were probably born with it and they're were probably born with it and they're like what so mercury has been used for like what so mercury has been used for like what so mercury has been used for hundreds of years and one of the hundreds of years and one of the hundreds of years and one of the craziest things that I did not know up craziest things that I did not know up craziest things that I did not know up until a few years ago is that mercury until a few years ago is that mercury until a few years ago is that mercury being one of the most common chemicals being one of the most common chemicals being one of the most common chemicals that is found within the body that's a that is found within the body that's a that is found within the body that's a systems stressor her is mercury so with systems stressor her is mercury so with systems stressor her is mercury so with mercury they actually took top hats that mercury they actually took top hats that mercury they actually took top hats that everybody used to wear in the late 1800s everybody used to wear in the late 1800s everybody used to wear in the late 1800s Early 1900s and they would dip them in Early 1900s and they would dip them in Early 1900s and they would dip them in mercury to weatherproof them so when it mercury to weatherproof them so when it mercury to weatherproof them so when it was hot out the mercury would turn into was hot out the mercury would turn into was hot out the mercury would turn into liquid and it would drip and absorb into liquid and it would drip and absorb into liquid and it would drip and absorb into the skin and that's what the term then the skin and that's what the term then the skin and that's what the term then that had or came from is that when it that had or came from is that when it that had or came from is that when it would absorb if this person started to would absorb if this person started to would absorb if this person started to have neurological stress it actually was have neurological stress it actually was have neurological stress it actually was due to the absorption of the mercury and due to the absorption of the mercury and due to the absorption of the mercury and they actually termed it the mad hatter they actually termed it the mad hatter they actually termed it the mad hatter syndrome so that is not just a random syndrome so that is not just a random syndrome so that is not just a random saying there's a reason for it so there saying there's a reason for it so there saying there's a reason for it so there can definitely be issues with literally can definitely be issues with literally can definitely be issues with literally chemicals that children are exposed to chemicals that children are exposed to chemicals that children are exposed to that make them more susceptible to the that make them more susceptible to the that make them more susceptible to the development of conditions like psoriasis development of conditions like psoriasis development of conditions like psoriasis and also other autoimmune conditions so and also other autoimmune conditions so and also other autoimmune conditions so some of the biggest things that have some of the biggest things that have some of the biggest things that have been found in amniotic fluid is been found in amniotic fluid is been found in amniotic fluid is literally chemicals from cigarettes if literally chemicals from cigarettes if literally chemicals from cigarettes if they smoked our big dinner different they smoked our big dinner different they smoked our big dinner different types of like formaldehyde pesticides types of like formaldehyde pesticides types of like formaldehyde pesticides herbicides fungicides antibiotics herbicides fungicides antibiotics herbicides fungicides antibiotics literally the list goes on there's so literally the list goes on there's so literally the list goes on there's so many different things that are trapped many different things that are trapped many different things that are trapped in all of our bodies and this is one of in all of our bodies and this is one of in all of our bodies and this is one of the biggest reasons why we have the biggest reasons why we have the biggest reasons why we have inflammation and we have inflammatory inflammation and we have inflammatory inflammation and we have inflammatory conditions like joint pain brain fog conditions like joint pain brain fog conditions like joint pain brain fog knee problems like most of your issues knee problems like most of your issues knee problems like most of your issues are coming from inflammation and are coming from inflammation and are coming from inflammation and especially if you weigh yourself and you especially if you weigh yourself and you especially if you weigh yourself and you fluctuate anywhere between like two fluctuate anywhere between like two fluctuate anywhere between like two three or even more pounds per day that three or even more pounds per day that three or even more pounds per day that is inflammation that is not that tissue is inflammation that is not that tissue is inflammation that is not that tissue so you lose your information protections so you lose your information protections so you lose your information protections and toxicity so a really interesting and toxicity so a really interesting and toxicity so a really interesting story in relation to a patient that I story in relation to a patient that I story in relation to a patient that I had that I worked with the has psoriasis had that I worked with the has psoriasis had that I worked with the has psoriasis so he was a 35 year old male on had so he was a 35 year old male on had so he was a 35 year old male on had psoriasis for these Rice's for about psoriasis for these Rice's for about psoriasis for these Rice's for about eight years but it was just progressing eight years but it was just progressing eight years but it was just progressing and getting worse and worse and worse and getting worse and worse and worse and getting worse and worse and worse and when we went through his and when we went through his and when we went through his consultation and I was asking a ton of consultation and I was asking a ton of consultation and I was asking a ton of questions one of the things that came up questions one of the things that came up questions one of the things that came up was that the psoriasis really started was that the psoriasis really started was that the psoriasis really started after he got into he goes into a fight after he got into he goes into a fight after he got into he goes into a fight actually and he was bit by a human and actually and he was bit by a human and actually and he was bit by a human and he went to the hospital and he they were he went to the hospital and he they were he went to the hospital and he they were his girlfriend mainly was fearful that his girlfriend mainly was fearful that his girlfriend mainly was fearful that he potentially contracted you know a he potentially contracted you know a he potentially contracted you know a serious virus like like HIV serious virus like like HIV serious virus like like HIV so they precautionary wise did they did so they precautionary wise did they did so they precautionary wise did they did a detox Oh a tetanus shot and then they a detox Oh a tetanus shot and then they a detox Oh a tetanus shot and then they also did a retroviral treatment so also did a retroviral treatment so also did a retroviral treatment so retroviruses are immunosuppressive retroviruses are immunosuppressive retroviruses are immunosuppressive viruses so retroviruses one of the most viruses so retroviruses one of the most viruses so retroviruses one of the most well known is HIV and then there are well known is HIV and then there are well known is HIV and then there are tons of other types of retroviruses so tons of other types of retroviruses so tons of other types of retroviruses so he pretty much said that his body was he pretty much said that his body was he pretty much said that his body was never the same after he did those never the same after he did those never the same after he did those therapies and it was shortly after that therapies and it was shortly after that therapies and it was shortly after that the psoriasis came on so interesting the psoriasis came on so interesting the psoriasis came on so interesting enough and I wish I had the PowerPoint enough and I wish I had the PowerPoint enough and I wish I had the PowerPoint uploaded correctly so you guys could see uploaded correctly so you guys could see uploaded correctly so you guys could see this but the specific retrovirus drug is this but the specific retrovirus drug is this but the specific retrovirus drug is called retro gear and some of the really called retro gear and some of the really called retro gear and some of the really specific things associated with retro specific things associated with retro specific things associated with retro veer are actually it destroys your veer are actually it destroys your veer are actually it destroys your immune system is really what it comes immune system is really what it comes immune system is really what it comes down to it compromises your lymphatic down to it compromises your lymphatic down to it compromises your lymphatic system also known as your lymphocytes it system also known as your lymphocytes it system also known as your lymphocytes it compromises your neutrophils which help compromises your neutrophils which help compromises your neutrophils which help you to fight bacteria you to fight bacteria you to fight bacteria it also compromises your liver in it also compromises your liver in it also compromises your liver in addition to that it also compromises addition to that it also compromises addition to that it also compromises that distribution in your body so it that distribution in your body so it that distribution in your body so it causes fatty build-up around certain causes fatty build-up around certain causes fatty build-up around certain organs so the more visceral fat a case organs so the more visceral fat a case organs so the more visceral fat a case that around your organs that you have that around your organs that you have that around your organs that you have the more issues that you have with blood the more issues that you have with blood the more issues that you have with blood sugar the more issues you have with sugar the more issues you have with sugar the more issues you have with blood or it is you have with your immune blood or it is you have with your immune blood or it is you have with your immune system and with your neurological system system and with your neurological system system and with your neurological system so you can see this is like a snowball so you can see this is like a snowball so you can see this is like a snowball effect and then eventually you end up effect and then eventually you end up effect and then eventually you end up with autoimmune type conditions so the with autoimmune type conditions so the with autoimmune type conditions so the drug is a very interesting drug because drug is a very interesting drug because drug is a very interesting drug because you know you have to consider is you know you have to consider is you know you have to consider is the do the pros outweigh the cons vice the do the pros outweigh the cons vice the do the pros outweigh the cons vice versa so with that being said when we versa so with that being said when we versa so with that being said when we actually dug deeper into his analysis it actually dug deeper into his analysis it actually dug deeper into his analysis it really turned out that most of his really turned out that most of his really turned out that most of his filtration pathways his kidney his liver filtration pathways his kidney his liver filtration pathways his kidney his liver in his lymphatic system were completely in his lymphatic system were completely in his lymphatic system were completely compromised and this was one of the compromised and this was one of the compromised and this was one of the reasons why his immune system was so reasons why his immune system was so reasons why his immune system was so compromised in addition to now the compromised in addition to now the compromised in addition to now the development of this autoimmune skin development of this autoimmune skin development of this autoimmune skin condition psoriasis so it wasn't one condition psoriasis so it wasn't one condition psoriasis so it wasn't one thing but that drug was a huge stressor thing but that drug was a huge stressor thing but that drug was a huge stressor that was a catalyst to him having the that was a catalyst to him having the that was a catalyst to him having the development of this condition so some of development of this condition so some of development of this condition so some of the other components too is the DTaP the other components too is the DTaP the other components too is the DTaP vaccine so first of all when you get vaccine so first of all when you get vaccine so first of all when you get tetanus they don't give tetanus anymore tetanus they don't give tetanus anymore tetanus they don't give tetanus anymore they only give DTaP which is a they only give DTaP which is a they only give DTaP which is a combination vaccine of diphtheria combination vaccine of diphtheria combination vaccine of diphtheria tetanus and pertussis also known as tetanus and pertussis also known as tetanus and pertussis also known as whooping cough so you are getting whooping cough so you are getting whooping cough so you are getting various viruses in one shot but the various viruses in one shot but the various viruses in one shot but the other factor to consider and this is other factor to consider and this is other factor to consider and this is something that I actually screenshotted something that I actually screenshotted something that I actually screenshotted from the package insert of this vaccine from the package insert of this vaccine from the package insert of this vaccine is that there are high levels of is that there are high levels of is that there are high levels of aluminum phosphate formaldehyde and it's aluminum phosphate formaldehyde and it's aluminum phosphate formaldehyde and it's also the substrate that it's made on also the substrate that it's made on also the substrate that it's made on which we'll explain in just a minute is which we'll explain in just a minute is which we'll explain in just a minute is Cao Cao cells so when you guys get a Cao Cao cells so when you guys get a Cao Cao cells so when you guys get a vaccine they take that virus and they vaccine they take that virus and they vaccine they take that virus and they have to inject the virus into some type have to inject the virus into some type have to inject the virus into some type of cell and sometimes that cell is of cell and sometimes that cell is of cell and sometimes that cell is aborted fetal cells aka human DNA aborted fetal cells aka human DNA aborted fetal cells aka human DNA sometimes it is cow fetal cells sometimes it is cow fetal cells sometimes it is cow fetal cells sometimes it is pork sometimes it is sometimes it is pork sometimes it is sometimes it is pork sometimes it is monkey sometimes it is chicken it really monkey sometimes it is chicken it really monkey sometimes it is chicken it really varies on the type of vaccine and type varies on the type of vaccine and type varies on the type of vaccine and type of virus so I think the point that I of virus so I think the point that I of virus so I think the point that I want to say about that is that you are want to say about that is that you are want to say about that is that you are being injected with foreign DNA and that being injected with foreign DNA and that being injected with foreign DNA and that foreign DNA is sometimes a catalyst to foreign DNA is sometimes a catalyst to foreign DNA is sometimes a catalyst to creating different types of autoimmune creating different types of autoimmune creating different types of autoimmune responses as well so obviously vaccines responses as well so obviously vaccines responses as well so obviously vaccines serve their time in place but when serve their time in place but when serve their time in place but when somebody's body is already compromised somebody's body is already compromised somebody's body is already compromised sometimes that that can be a further sometimes that that can be a further sometimes that that can be a further stressor opposed to being a benefit stressor opposed to being a benefit stressor opposed to being a benefit so it's really all about timing I think so it's really all about timing I think so it's really all about timing I think it's what's the biggest or most it's what's the biggest or most it's what's the biggest or most important thing to take away about that important thing to take away about that important thing to take away about that so another big thing too is when it so another big thing too is when it so another big thing too is when it comes to some of the other side effects comes to some of the other side effects comes to some of the other side effects when it comes to certain types of when it comes to certain types of when it comes to certain types of vaccines one of the biggest side effects vaccines one of the biggest side effects vaccines one of the biggest side effects or in the detail is actually in relation or in the detail is actually in relation or in the detail is actually in relation to progressive neurologic disorders and to progressive neurologic disorders and to progressive neurologic disorders and these neurological disorders come from these neurological disorders come from these neurological disorders come from the effect that the vaccine can have on the effect that the vaccine can have on the effect that the vaccine can have on the central nervous system so tetanus the central nervous system so tetanus the central nervous system so tetanus just you know is is neurotoxic which is just you know is is neurotoxic which is just you know is is neurotoxic which is one of the reasons why you obviously one of the reasons why you obviously one of the reasons why you obviously want to that or become immune to it but want to that or become immune to it but want to that or become immune to it but again at the opportune time if the again at the opportune time if the again at the opportune time if the immune system is already compromised immune system is already compromised immune system is already compromised sometimes that virus goes into the body sometimes that virus goes into the body sometimes that virus goes into the body and creates more stress opposed to and creates more stress opposed to and creates more stress opposed to creating immunity so another big myth creating immunity so another big myth creating immunity so another big myth when it comes to these skin conditions when it comes to these skin conditions when it comes to these skin conditions is really all about this the exposures is really all about this the exposures is really all about this the exposures that you can have very very early on and that you can have very very early on and that you can have very very early on and for those of you that have been for those of you that have been for those of you that have been listening the whole time one of the listening the whole time one of the listening the whole time one of the biggest things that I said earlier is biggest things that I said earlier is biggest things that I said earlier is that if you are a c-section versus a that if you are a c-section versus a that if you are a c-section versus a natural birth that is going to literally natural birth that is going to literally natural birth that is going to literally dictate your skin bacteria as well as dictate your skin bacteria as well as dictate your skin bacteria as well as your internal bacteria right out of the your internal bacteria right out of the your internal bacteria right out of the gate so when you don't have enough of gate so when you don't have enough of gate so when you don't have enough of the good bacteria and maybe that's the good bacteria and maybe that's the good bacteria and maybe that's because of a lot of childhood because of a lot of childhood because of a lot of childhood antibiotics or maybe it's because you antibiotics or maybe it's because you antibiotics or maybe it's because you were a c-section a lack of all that good were a c-section a lack of all that good were a c-section a lack of all that good bacteria makes you way more susceptible bacteria makes you way more susceptible bacteria makes you way more susceptible to the bad bacteria and it's really not to the bad bacteria and it's really not to the bad bacteria and it's really not even just bacteria that you become more even just bacteria that you become more even just bacteria that you become more susceptible to other types of infections susceptible to other types of infections susceptible to other types of infections including viruses so one of the biggest including viruses so one of the biggest including viruses so one of the biggest infections that is known to be the great infections that is known to be the great infections that is known to be the great imitator of psoriasis is called imitator of psoriasis is called imitator of psoriasis is called Treponema pallidum mm-hmm also known as Treponema pallidum mm-hmm also known as Treponema pallidum mm-hmm also known as syphilis so don't freak out everyone so syphilis so don't freak out everyone so syphilis so don't freak out everyone so I know that syphilis is definitely I know that syphilis is definitely I know that syphilis is definitely something that first of all people think something that first of all people think something that first of all people think oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh that pretty much been eradicated number that pretty much been eradicated number that pretty much been eradicated number one number two is isn't that a sexually one number two is isn't that a sexually one number two is isn't that a sexually transmitted disease I've never had a transmitted disease I've never had a transmitted disease I've never had a sexually transmitted disease like that sexually transmitted disease like that sexually transmitted disease like that can't be it so when you actually look at can't be it so when you actually look at can't be it so when you actually look at the epidemiology of syphilis and you the epidemiology of syphilis and you the epidemiology of syphilis and you actually look at Lyme disease and you actually look at Lyme disease and you actually look at Lyme disease and you compare them they actually are very compare them they actually are very compare them they actually are very similar so both of these infections lung similar so both of these infections lung similar so both of these infections lung disease and syphilis are actually both disease and syphilis are actually both disease and syphilis are actually both classified as spirochete infections classified as spirochete infections classified as spirochete infections so these spirochete infections can come so these spirochete infections can come so these spirochete infections can come from any type of vector mosquitoes ticks from any type of vector mosquitoes ticks from any type of vector mosquitoes ticks fleas anything that bites spiders it can fleas anything that bites spiders it can fleas anything that bites spiders it can be sexually transmitted it can also be be sexually transmitted it can also be be sexually transmitted it can also be passed from mom to baby so when someone passed from mom to baby so when someone passed from mom to baby so when someone comes to me and they say oh I have tons comes to me and they say oh I have tons comes to me and they say oh I have tons of joint problems and I also have of joint problems and I also have of joint problems and I also have psoriasis or they have psoriasis only psoriasis or they have psoriasis only psoriasis or they have psoriasis only over their joints that is super common over their joints that is super common over their joints that is super common most people that come to me with either most people that come to me with either most people that come to me with either eczema or psoriasis it's over their eczema or psoriasis it's over their eczema or psoriasis it's over their joints if you have it over your joints joints if you have it over your joints joints if you have it over your joints there's a higher probability that it's there's a higher probability that it's there's a higher probability that it's being caused either by syphilis or being being caused either by syphilis or being being caused either by syphilis or being caused by Lyme so again this does not caused by Lyme so again this does not caused by Lyme so again this does not have to be a sexually transmitted have to be a sexually transmitted have to be a sexually transmitted disease this is something that you can disease this is something that you can disease this is something that you can have exposure in a variety of different have exposure in a variety of different have exposure in a variety of different ways but I will tell you your doctors ways but I will tell you your doctors ways but I will tell you your doctors are not screening you for this regularly are not screening you for this regularly are not screening you for this regularly and there it's also very very hard to and there it's also very very hard to and there it's also very very hard to find through conventional testing so you find through conventional testing so you find through conventional testing so you have to use very specialized testing to have to use very specialized testing to have to use very specialized testing to find this and really decipher is it part find this and really decipher is it part find this and really decipher is it part of the problem another thing that is of the problem another thing that is of the problem another thing that is also a very common denominator with also a very common denominator with also a very common denominator with psoriasis is herpes and I when you when psoriasis is herpes and I when you when psoriasis is herpes and I when you when I say herpes simplex that's also the I say herpes simplex that's also the I say herpes simplex that's also the virus that's associated with cold sores virus that's associated with cold sores virus that's associated with cold sores so when you look at somebody who has a so when you look at somebody who has a so when you look at somebody who has a severe cold sore it is a scabby patch severe cold sore it is a scabby patch severe cold sore it is a scabby patch it's sometimes resembles what a it's sometimes resembles what a it's sometimes resembles what a psoriasis psoriasis pashtun look like so psoriasis psoriasis pashtun look like so psoriasis psoriasis pashtun look like so if someone has the herpes simplex virus if someone has the herpes simplex virus if someone has the herpes simplex virus that that that becomes systemic and maybe it's trapped becomes systemic and maybe it's trapped becomes systemic and maybe it's trapped in their lymph nodes and it's pushing in their lymph nodes and it's pushing in their lymph nodes and it's pushing out through the skin there is a high out through the skin there is a high out through the skin there is a high probability that they can also be probability that they can also be probability that they can also be manifesting this condition psoriasis so manifesting this condition psoriasis so manifesting this condition psoriasis so you always have to be screened for you always have to be screened for you always have to be screened for infectious diseases when you are dealing infectious diseases when you are dealing infectious diseases when you are dealing with psoriasis and other types of skin with psoriasis and other types of skin with psoriasis and other types of skin conditions this chances are this is conditions this chances are this is conditions this chances are this is coming from the inside out and it is coming from the inside out and it is coming from the inside out and it is also stemming from the lymphatic system also stemming from the lymphatic system also stemming from the lymphatic system not being able to work properly and not being able to work properly and not being able to work properly and eradicate these infections out of the eradicate these infections out of the eradicate these infections out of the body so another big thing too is when we body so another big thing too is when we body so another big thing too is when we go back to this idea of the body's go back to this idea of the body's go back to this idea of the body's filtration we are - the stems that need filtration we are - the stems that need filtration we are - the stems that need to work properly but your body also has to work properly but your body also has to work properly but your body also has a ton of filtration systems because if a ton of filtration systems because if a ton of filtration systems because if one gets compromised then the others one gets compromised then the others one gets compromised then the others will work harder the problem comes in will work harder the problem comes in will work harder the problem comes in when all of the filtration systems are when all of the filtration systems are when all of the filtration systems are starting to become compromised so when starting to become compromised so when starting to become compromised so when you have a compromised liver you might you have a compromised liver you might you have a compromised liver you might have right-sided rib cage pain you might have right-sided rib cage pain you might have right-sided rib cage pain you might have trouble digesting fats including have trouble digesting fats including have trouble digesting fats including dairy you might have cramping when you dairy you might have cramping when you dairy you might have cramping when you run on your right side you might have run on your right side you might have run on your right side you might have constipation you might also have yellow constipation you might also have yellow constipation you might also have yellow coloring of your eyes or your skin you coloring of your eyes or your skin you coloring of your eyes or your skin you might have aging spots if you have might have aging spots if you have might have aging spots if you have compromised kidneys you might have compromised kidneys you might have compromised kidneys you might have reoccurring urinary tract infections you reoccurring urinary tract infections you reoccurring urinary tract infections you might have kidney stones you might have might have kidney stones you might have might have kidney stones you might have gallery you might even have joint pain gallery you might even have joint pain gallery you might even have joint pain and then if you have a compromised and then if you have a compromised and then if you have a compromised lymphatic system you might have swelling lymphatic system you might have swelling lymphatic system you might have swelling you might have water retention you might you might have water retention you might you might have water retention you might not sweat properly you might get not sweat properly you might get not sweat properly you might get headaches you might have neck pain these headaches you might have neck pain these headaches you might have neck pain these are all symptoms that I know so many of are all symptoms that I know so many of are all symptoms that I know so many of you are probably dealing with to some you are probably dealing with to some you are probably dealing with to some capacity but it's not that you have to capacity but it's not that you have to capacity but it's not that you have to do all of these crazy things to get your do all of these crazy things to get your do all of these crazy things to get your body back on track or to eradicate your body back on track or to eradicate your body back on track or to eradicate your psoriasis sometimes it's really just psoriasis sometimes it's really just psoriasis sometimes it's really just about cleaning up these these about cleaning up these these about cleaning up these these alterations systems alterations systems alterations systems and getting your body's ability to and getting your body's ability to and getting your body's ability to filter to work again and this is again filter to work again and this is again filter to work again and this is again something that is being completely something that is being completely something that is being completely overlooked in the event of these overlooked in the event of these overlooked in the event of these autoimmune conditions psoriasis being a autoimmune conditions psoriasis being a autoimmune conditions psoriasis being a big one and another big component to big one and another big component to big one and another big component to this is the tonsils if you are a person this is the tonsils if you are a person this is the tonsils if you are a person who has had your tonsils removed maybe who has had your tonsils removed maybe who has had your tonsils removed maybe you've had tons of tonsil issues we've you've had tons of tonsil issues we've you've had tons of tonsil issues we've had tonsil stones you have bad breath had tonsil stones you have bad breath had tonsil stones you have bad breath these are all signs that your tonsils these are all signs that your tonsils these are all signs that your tonsils are ridden with abnormal bacteria and are ridden with abnormal bacteria and are ridden with abnormal bacteria and your tonsils are a key component to your tonsils are a key component to your tonsils are a key component to understanding the health of your immune understanding the health of your immune understanding the health of your immune system if you have compromised tonsils system if you have compromised tonsils system if you have compromised tonsils chances are you have a compromised chances are you have a compromised chances are you have a compromised immune system in addition to that you immune system in addition to that you immune system in addition to that you have a compromised ability for your have a compromised ability for your have a compromised ability for your brain to detox so the tonsils are a key brain to detox so the tonsils are a key brain to detox so the tonsils are a key thing to on to really understanding the thing to on to really understanding the thing to on to really understanding the health of your immune system and that is health of your immune system and that is health of your immune system and that is definitely something that can give you definitely something that can give you definitely something that can give you insight is is my immune system healthy insight is is my immune system healthy insight is is my immune system healthy are my filtration systems working are my filtration systems working are my filtration systems working properly and is that part of the puzzle properly and is that part of the puzzle properly and is that part of the puzzle for my psoriasis another thing to when for my psoriasis another thing to when for my psoriasis another thing to when it comes to all of these components is it comes to all of these components is it comes to all of these components is really just understanding the the really just understanding the the really just understanding the the antibiotics and how this plays a role is antibiotics and how this plays a role is antibiotics and how this plays a role is that your skin has to be equipped to that your skin has to be equipped to that your skin has to be equipped to protect itself by having bacteria and protect itself by having bacteria and protect itself by having bacteria and it's really not even just about it's really not even just about it's really not even just about antibiotics for those of you that work antibiotics for those of you that work antibiotics for those of you that work in environments at a hospital and you in environments at a hospital and you in environments at a hospital and you constantly have to be sanitizing constantly have to be sanitizing constantly have to be sanitizing sanitizing sanitizing you are using sanitizing sanitizing you are using sanitizing sanitizing you are using first of all sanitizers that are hormone first of all sanitizers that are hormone first of all sanitizers that are hormone disruptors there is an ingredient that disruptors there is an ingredient that disruptors there is an ingredient that is in these hand sanitizers called try is in these hand sanitizers called try is in these hand sanitizers called try closin try closin as a hormone disruptor closin try closin as a hormone disruptor closin try closin as a hormone disruptor in addition to that you're constantly in addition to that you're constantly in addition to that you're constantly cleansing and you're not wiping out that cleansing and you're not wiping out that cleansing and you're not wiping out that bacteria you're also wiping out good bacteria you're also wiping out good bacteria you're also wiping out good bacteria so the less and less good bacteria so the less and less good bacteria so the less and less good bacteria you have on your skin the bacteria you have on your skin the bacteria you have on your skin the acceptable you are too the bad bacteria acceptable you are too the bad bacteria acceptable you are too the bad bacteria and we are exposed to that bacteria all and we are exposed to that bacteria all and we are exposed to that bacteria all the time but it's not that we should the time but it's not that we should the time but it's not that we should live in fear of it we really just have live in fear of it we really just have live in fear of it we really just have to understand that it is about if you to understand that it is about if you to understand that it is about if you don't have the protective stuff you are don't have the protective stuff you are don't have the protective stuff you are way more susceptible to the bad way more susceptible to the bad way more susceptible to the bad infections so we need to stop living in infections so we need to stop living in infections so we need to stop living in fear of bacteria we need to stop using fear of bacteria we need to stop using fear of bacteria we need to stop using these insane cleaners and our homes and these insane cleaners and our homes and these insane cleaners and our homes and literally dousing everything with bleach literally dousing everything with bleach literally dousing everything with bleach and you know using hand sanitizer every and you know using hand sanitizer every and you know using hand sanitizer every five minutes we need to understand that five minutes we need to understand that five minutes we need to understand that we need to get dirty we need to play in we need to get dirty we need to play in we need to get dirty we need to play in the dirt we need to not be you know the dirt we need to not be you know the dirt we need to not be you know these germaphobes because it's the it's these germaphobes because it's the it's these germaphobes because it's the it's the constant sanitizing that is actually the constant sanitizing that is actually the constant sanitizing that is actually creating more superbugs and this is creating more superbugs and this is creating more superbugs and this is what's creating different types of what's creating different types of what's creating different types of stress and staff and infections that are stress and staff and infections that are stress and staff and infections that are completely antibiotic resistant so it's completely antibiotic resistant so it's completely antibiotic resistant so it's a matter of trying to go back to the a matter of trying to go back to the a matter of trying to go back to the roots and like let your kids play in the roots and like let your kids play in the roots and like let your kids play in the dirt and let them you know be able to dirt and let them you know be able to dirt and let them you know be able to have those exposures because it actually have those exposures because it actually have those exposures because it actually builds their immune system in a healthy builds their immune system in a healthy builds their immune system in a healthy way so one of the the components that I way so one of the the components that I way so one of the the components that I mentioned already that we cannot mentioned already that we cannot mentioned already that we cannot overlook emotional components when it overlook emotional components when it overlook emotional components when it comes to autoimmune conditions as a comes to autoimmune conditions as a comes to autoimmune conditions as a whole but in addition specifically whole but in addition specifically whole but in addition specifically psoriasis so again like there is a lot psoriasis so again like there is a lot psoriasis so again like there is a lot of interpretations for this but feeling of interpretations for this but feeling of interpretations for this but feeling comfortable in your own skin and feeling comfortable in your own skin and feeling comfortable in your own skin and feeling comfortable here in your own skin can be comfortable here in your own skin can be comfortable here in your own skin can be because someone has talked down to you because someone has talked down to you because someone has talked down to you in your past or someone at high in your past or someone at high in your past or someone at high expectations on you that you never felt expectations on you that you never felt expectations on you that you never felt like you could meet or it has to do with like you could meet or it has to do with like you could meet or it has to do with your own self-talk of never feeling like your own self-talk of never feeling like your own self-talk of never feeling like you're good enough or feeling ashamed of you're good enough or feeling ashamed of you're good enough or feeling ashamed of certain things so there is definitely a certain things so there is definitely a certain things so there is definitely a dynamic that can cause the symptoms to dynamic that can cause the symptoms to dynamic that can cause the symptoms to persist despite all of your efforts of persist despite all of your efforts of persist despite all of your efforts of taking supplements changing your diet taking supplements changing your diet taking supplements changing your diet taking certain prescriptions etc so we taking certain prescriptions etc so we taking certain prescriptions etc so we really have to consider you know how do really have to consider you know how do really have to consider you know how do we talk to our cells what are the we talk to our cells what are the we talk to our cells what are the thoughts that we think every day because thoughts that we think every day because thoughts that we think every day because these are this is not a whoo-whoo this these are this is not a whoo-whoo this these are this is not a whoo-whoo this not like Oh this doesn't even matter not like Oh this doesn't even matter not like Oh this doesn't even matter that can't possibly be playing a bowl that can't possibly be playing a bowl that can't possibly be playing a bowl because we all know that stress has a because we all know that stress has a because we all know that stress has a negative impact on our bodies but I negative impact on our bodies but I negative impact on our bodies but I think that we have underestimated for think that we have underestimated for think that we have underestimated for many many years how much that can many many years how much that can many many years how much that can actually play a role in creating actually play a role in creating actually play a role in creating physical symptoms so it's time for us to physical symptoms so it's time for us to physical symptoms so it's time for us to understand that we are a whole and just understand that we are a whole and just understand that we are a whole and just because you can handle stress does not because you can handle stress does not because you can handle stress does not mean that your body doesn't internalize mean that your body doesn't internalize mean that your body doesn't internalize that in a different way I'm from New that in a different way I'm from New that in a different way I'm from New Jersey and living in the tri-state area Jersey and living in the tri-state area Jersey and living in the tri-state area with tough New Yorkers and tough Jersey with tough New Yorkers and tough Jersey with tough New Yorkers and tough Jersey and filling people we all pretty much and filling people we all pretty much and filling people we all pretty much say you know oh yeah I've stressed that say you know oh yeah I've stressed that say you know oh yeah I've stressed that I can handle it oh that's just life you I can handle it oh that's just life you I can handle it oh that's just life you know you just power through and yeah I know you just power through and yeah I know you just power through and yeah I get it you could be strong mentally but get it you could be strong mentally but get it you could be strong mentally but you can stuff it down it's gonna go you can stuff it down it's gonna go you can stuff it down it's gonna go somewhere and it is definitely going to somewhere and it is definitely going to somewhere and it is definitely going to create dysfunction in your body and in create dysfunction in your body and in create dysfunction in your body and in your tissues because there's no possible your tissues because there's no possible your tissues because there's no possible way that you just sweep it under the rug way that you just sweep it under the rug way that you just sweep it under the rug or stuff it down or just take it in or stuff it down or just take it in or stuff it down or just take it in that's going to affect you in some way that's going to affect you in some way that's going to affect you in some way or another and unfortunately we will do or another and unfortunately we will do or another and unfortunately we will do all of these things we'll do we'll take all of these things we'll do we'll take all of these things we'll do we'll take the supplements we'll change the diet the supplements we'll change the diet the supplements we'll change the diet will exercise we'll do all these things will exercise we'll do all these things will exercise we'll do all these things but the last thing that we think about but the last thing that we think about but the last thing that we think about is our stress levels our schedule our is our stress levels our schedule our is our stress levels our schedule our running ourselves ragged our three hour running ourselves ragged our three hour running ourselves ragged our three hour commute we ignore those pieces and we commute we ignore those pieces and we commute we ignore those pieces and we say I'm gonna change all the rest but I say I'm gonna change all the rest but I say I'm gonna change all the rest but I don't have time for that or that can't don't have time for that or that can't don't have time for that or that can't be part of the puzzle it's a it's be part of the puzzle it's a it's be part of the puzzle it's a it's interesting because I'm you did a interesting because I'm you did a interesting because I'm you did a podcast not too long ago and it was podcast not too long ago and it was podcast not too long ago and it was called screw it just EPS so to be called screw it just EPS so to be called screw it just EPS so to be healthy and one of the reasons we did healthy and one of the reasons we did healthy and one of the reasons we did that podcast is because it was really that podcast is because it was really that podcast is because it was really shedding light on the fact that it shedding light on the fact that it shedding light on the fact that it wasn't even just my own experience but wasn't even just my own experience but wasn't even just my own experience but so many other physicians that I talked so many other physicians that I talked so many other physicians that I talked to and we all come to the same to and we all come to the same to and we all come to the same realization is that we do all these realization is that we do all these realization is that we do all these things to help people get their lives on things to help people get their lives on things to help people get their lives on track we talk about eliminating certain track we talk about eliminating certain track we talk about eliminating certain foods and changing their diet and taking foods and changing their diet and taking foods and changing their diet and taking supplements supplements supplements exercising and then we realized that exercising and then we realized that exercising and then we realized that there's just like the one elephant in there's just like the one elephant in there's just like the one elephant in the room and the elephant in the room it the room and the elephant in the room it the room and the elephant in the room it is always where are they out emotionally is always where are they out emotionally is always where are they out emotionally and where they act with their stress and where they act with their stress and where they act with their stress levels and that is something that so levels and that is something that so levels and that is something that so many people just are like no no I'm many people just are like no no I'm many people just are like no no I'm going to do all these great things for going to do all these great things for going to do all these great things for my body but I'm not going to change that my body but I'm not going to change that my body but I'm not going to change that because I I can't right now I can't be because I I can't right now I can't be because I I can't right now I can't be bothered with it because you know my job bothered with it because you know my job bothered with it because you know my job is demanding or I have to provide for my is demanding or I have to provide for my is demanding or I have to provide for my family family family and it's really trying to understand and it's really trying to understand and it's really trying to understand that it's all about a balance it's all that it's all about a balance it's all that it's all about a balance it's all about understanding all of the different about understanding all of the different about understanding all of the different aspects and you know it's not about aspects and you know it's not about aspects and you know it's not about completely changing your life but it's completely changing your life but it's completely changing your life but it's at least being able to have some at least being able to have some at least being able to have some strategies and some tools with that so strategies and some tools with that so strategies and some tools with that so overall if you haven't realized at this overall if you haven't realized at this overall if you haven't realized at this point in time is that psoriasis is not point in time is that psoriasis is not point in time is that psoriasis is not just skin condition this is not just just skin condition this is not just just skin condition this is not just about oh you just have a skin condition about oh you just have a skin condition about oh you just have a skin condition and that's the end of the story if you and that's the end of the story if you and that's the end of the story if you just you know take this just you know take this just you know take this immunosuppressant we're gonna we're immunosuppressant we're gonna we're immunosuppressant we're gonna we're gonna radically get rid of it gonna radically get rid of it gonna radically get rid of it a lot of people are seeing some results a lot of people are seeing some results a lot of people are seeing some results with those immunosuppressants which are with those immunosuppressants which are with those immunosuppressants which are the traditional therapies and then the traditional therapies and then the traditional therapies and then there's a lot of people that are not there's a lot of people that are not there's a lot of people that are not seeing any changes at all or they take seeing any changes at all or they take seeing any changes at all or they take the immunosuppressants and then they say the immunosuppressants and then they say the immunosuppressants and then they say I'm feeling better I want to come off of I'm feeling better I want to come off of I'm feeling better I want to come off of it and then they try to come off of it it and then they try to come off of it it and then they try to come off of it and they have a flair and then the like and they have a flair and then the like and they have a flair and then the like oh no I have to rely on the medication oh no I have to rely on the medication oh no I have to rely on the medication so when you really think about what's so when you really think about what's so when you really think about what's happening here is that it's an immune happening here is that it's an immune happening here is that it's an immune system problem that's why I specified as system problem that's why I specified as system problem that's why I specified as an autoimmune condition so if you have an autoimmune condition so if you have an autoimmune condition so if you have an auto or if you have an immune system an auto or if you have an immune system an auto or if you have an immune system issue or an over firing immune system an issue or an over firing immune system an issue or an over firing immune system an over firing immune system creates an over firing immune system creates an over firing immune system creates an inflammatory process inflammation makes inflammatory process inflammation makes inflammatory process inflammation makes you feel crappy you feel crappy you feel crappy it makes your joints hurt it makes your it makes your joints hurt it makes your it makes your joints hurt it makes your skin worse it makes your brain fog come skin worse it makes your brain fog come skin worse it makes your brain fog come back it makes you feel fatigued it back it makes you feel fatigued it back it makes you feel fatigued it messes up your sleep but an immune messes up your sleep but an immune messes up your sleep but an immune system issue is always going to be system issue is always going to be system issue is always going to be coincided with an inflammatory issue coincided with an inflammatory issue coincided with an inflammatory issue that's the way that the body works so that's the way that the body works so that's the way that the body works so when you take the immunosuppressant when you take the immunosuppressant when you take the immunosuppressant you're going to calm down the immune you're going to calm down the immune you're going to calm down the immune system system system and in turn you're shutting off the in and in turn you're shutting off the in and in turn you're shutting off the in flap Hey aka yeah what you're also doing flap Hey aka yeah what you're also doing flap Hey aka yeah what you're also doing is you're compromising your immune is you're compromising your immune is you're compromising your immune system which opens you up to viruses system which opens you up to viruses system which opens you up to viruses infectious disease bacteria and it's infectious disease bacteria and it's infectious disease bacteria and it's gonna open you up to a whole other slew gonna open you up to a whole other slew gonna open you up to a whole other slew of problems so we need to start thinking of problems so we need to start thinking of problems so we need to start thinking okay is this really going to be my okay is this really going to be my okay is this really going to be my master solution or is this just putting master solution or is this just putting master solution or is this just putting my symptoms at bay and creating a my symptoms at bay and creating a my symptoms at bay and creating a boatload of other issues that are gonna boatload of other issues that are gonna boatload of other issues that are gonna creep up later down the line because creep up later down the line because creep up later down the line because most of the people that I work with that most of the people that I work with that most of the people that I work with that have been on those immunosuppressants have been on those immunosuppressants have been on those immunosuppressants they are the ones that come to me later they are the ones that come to me later they are the ones that come to me later down the line with neurological decline down the line with neurological decline down the line with neurological decline early onset Parkinson's multiple early onset Parkinson's multiple early onset Parkinson's multiple sclerosis etc and guess what there's sclerosis etc and guess what there's sclerosis etc and guess what there's more immunosuppressants for those more immunosuppressants for those more immunosuppressants for those conditions as well these are conditions conditions as well these are conditions conditions as well these are conditions that they're all result of something and that they're all result of something and that they're all result of something and it's a matter of digging deeper and it's a matter of digging deeper and it's a matter of digging deeper and asking better questions and getting asking better questions and getting asking better questions and getting better testing to decipher what those better testing to decipher what those better testing to decipher what those actually are so when we've really comes actually are so when we've really comes actually are so when we've really comes down to these skin issues it's really down to these skin issues it's really down to these skin issues it's really just we need to get away from this idea just we need to get away from this idea just we need to get away from this idea of this is about bad genes and bad luck of this is about bad genes and bad luck of this is about bad genes and bad luck because yes of course you could always because yes of course you could always because yes of course you could always have a genetic predisposition you can have a genetic predisposition you can have a genetic predisposition you can have your immune system be a vulnerable have your immune system be a vulnerable have your immune system be a vulnerable part of your body you can have your skin part of your body you can have your skin part of your body you can have your skin be a vulnerable part of your body but it be a vulnerable part of your body but it be a vulnerable part of your body but it is always going to take various factors is always going to take various factors is always going to take various factors that will allow your genes to express that will allow your genes to express that will allow your genes to express differently so what I mean by that is if differently so what I mean by that is if differently so what I mean by that is if you have a boatload of toxicity or you you have a boatload of toxicity or you you have a boatload of toxicity or you have a lot of stress or you have have a lot of stress or you have have a lot of stress or you have infections if you have gut issues you infections if you have gut issues you infections if you have gut issues you have all of those things compounding have all of those things compounding have all of those things compounding your genetic predispositions that is your genetic predispositions that is your genetic predispositions that is going to bring those things to the going to bring those things to the going to bring those things to the surface just because you have a gene surface just because you have a gene surface just because you have a gene does not mean that you are due to get does not mean that you are due to get does not mean that you are due to get that condition and just because it runs that condition and just because it runs that condition and just because it runs in your family also doesn't mean that in your family also doesn't mean that in your family also doesn't mean that there are so many things that you can do there are so many things that you can do there are so many things that you can do to prevent that and completely eradicate to prevent that and completely eradicate to prevent that and completely eradicate the possibility of that gene expressing the possibility of that gene expressing the possibility of that gene expressing that disease and I think that that's an that disease and I think that that's an that disease and I think that that's an important thing that people don't important thing that people don't important thing that people don't realize is that we feel doomed realize is that we feel doomed realize is that we feel doomed to our family history and pure genetics to our family history and pure genetics to our family history and pure genetics and there is that is not your fate and and there is that is not your fate and and there is that is not your fate and it is not going to dictate your health it is not going to dictate your health it is not going to dictate your health so we need to get away from just sitting so we need to get away from just sitting so we need to get away from just sitting back and thinking like oh I'm just kind back and thinking like oh I'm just kind back and thinking like oh I'm just kind of like waiting for that diagnosis of like waiting for that diagnosis of like waiting for that diagnosis because you know everybody else in my because you know everybody else in my because you know everybody else in my family has it there's always always family has it there's always always family has it there's always always always a reason so in addition to that always a reason so in addition to that always a reason so in addition to that you know when it comes to this idea of you know when it comes to this idea of you know when it comes to this idea of like okay what do you even do to figure like okay what do you even do to figure like okay what do you even do to figure out you know where the psoriasis is out you know where the psoriasis is out you know where the psoriasis is coming from like what type of testing coming from like what type of testing coming from like what type of testing does that entail does that entail does that entail so the testing that I've entails is so the testing that I've entails is so the testing that I've entails is really looking at the whole body it's really looking at the whole body it's really looking at the whole body it's not about just thing like okay we're not about just thing like okay we're not about just thing like okay we're going to test for the root cause of the going to test for the root cause of the going to test for the root cause of the psoriasis we need to look at every psoriasis we need to look at every psoriasis we need to look at every single system and how it's all working single system and how it's all working single system and how it's all working together and we need to look at the together and we need to look at the together and we need to look at the immune system we need to look at the gut immune system we need to look at the gut immune system we need to look at the gut we need to look at the neurological we need to look at the neurological we need to look at the neurological system and we also need to ask better system and we also need to ask better system and we also need to ask better questions as to was there any specific questions as to was there any specific questions as to was there any specific things that were happening at the time things that were happening at the time things that were happening at the time that these symptoms came on so when we that these symptoms came on so when we that these symptoms came on so when we do our testing we are literally looking do our testing we are literally looking do our testing we are literally looking at the DNA we're looking at the at the DNA we're looking at the at the DNA we're looking at the energetic system we're looking at energetic system we're looking at energetic system we're looking at toxicity we're looking at infections toxicity we're looking at infections toxicity we're looking at infections we're testing for infections like Lyme we're testing for infections like Lyme we're testing for infections like Lyme and syphilis for those of you that I see and syphilis for those of you that I see and syphilis for those of you that I see that are just jumping on you could that are just jumping on you could that are just jumping on you could rewatch and hear all about my syphilis rewatch and hear all about my syphilis rewatch and hear all about my syphilis feel which can definitely be a feel which can definitely be a feel which can definitely be a contributing factor to psoriasis but you contributing factor to psoriasis but you contributing factor to psoriasis but you have to it's not just about your testing have to it's not just about your testing have to it's not just about your testing it's also about asking better questions it's also about asking better questions it's also about asking better questions and that's really one of the things that and that's really one of the things that and that's really one of the things that I have been learning and and evolving I have been learning and and evolving I have been learning and and evolving over time is it's always about the over time is it's always about the over time is it's always about the consultation so when it comes to consultation so when it comes to consultation so when it comes to conventional medicine you are not conventional medicine you are not conventional medicine you are not getting time you don't get time with getting time you don't get time with getting time you don't get time with your doctor they give you five minutes your doctor they give you five minutes your doctor they give you five minutes ten minutes max so wouldn't we really ten minutes max so wouldn't we really ten minutes max so wouldn't we really opted to do what we do we opted to spend opted to do what we do we opted to spend opted to do what we do we opted to spend more time so that we can dig we can ask more time so that we can dig we can ask more time so that we can dig we can ask that our questions we can understand that our questions we can understand that our questions we can understand your health history we can look at the your health history we can look at the your health history we can look at the timeline and in addition we can do timeline and in addition we can do timeline and in addition we can do better testing so that's really the better testing so that's really the better testing so that's really the difference to understand about difference to understand about difference to understand about conventional to functional medicine conventional to functional medicine conventional to functional medicine even what we do which is called even what we do which is called even what we do which is called integrative so your conventional integrative so your conventional integrative so your conventional medicine is you don't get any time you medicine is you don't get any time you medicine is you don't get any time you don't have nobody's asking you better don't have nobody's asking you better don't have nobody's asking you better questions they and and it's not their questions they and and it's not their questions they and and it's not their fault it's dictated by the insurance fault it's dictated by the insurance fault it's dictated by the insurance companies just you understand so it's companies just you understand so it's companies just you understand so it's literally the insurance companies say literally the insurance companies say literally the insurance companies say you're only gonna get paid for this time you're only gonna get paid for this time you're only gonna get paid for this time slot and you need to meet X amount of slot and you need to meet X amount of slot and you need to meet X amount of patients per week for you to get paid patients per week for you to get paid patients per week for you to get paid what you need to get paid so the what you need to get paid so the what you need to get paid so the insurance companies call the shots so insurance companies call the shots so insurance companies call the shots so you get limited time and I've had many you get limited time and I've had many you get limited time and I've had many people that have come up to me different people that have come up to me different people that have come up to me different nurse practitioners and pas that have nurse practitioners and pas that have nurse practitioners and pas that have said I love what you're doing I wish I said I love what you're doing I wish I said I love what you're doing I wish I could I only have I have like two could I only have I have like two could I only have I have like two minutes with my patient and I barely can minutes with my patient and I barely can minutes with my patient and I barely can ask them what they ate that day so it's ask them what they ate that day so it's ask them what they ate that day so it's impossible for me to give nutritional impossible for me to give nutritional impossible for me to give nutritional advice and when you start to want to advice and when you start to want to advice and when you start to want to help people in a bigger way help people in a bigger way help people in a bigger way unfortunately as a physician you have to unfortunately as a physician you have to unfortunately as a physician you have to step outside of that insurance model and step outside of that insurance model and step outside of that insurance model and you have to step outside and be you have to step outside and be you have to step outside and be classified as out of network so that you classified as out of network so that you classified as out of network so that you can spend the time do the better testing can spend the time do the better testing can spend the time do the better testing to actually figure out what the heck is to actually figure out what the heck is to actually figure out what the heck is going on so I do really hope that things going on so I do really hope that things going on so I do really hope that things change in the future but I think the change in the future but I think the change in the future but I think the biggest thing is is that the people that biggest thing is is that the people that biggest thing is is that the people that gets me are usually the ones that wasted gets me are usually the ones that wasted gets me are usually the ones that wasted a lot of time and they waste a lot of a lot of time and they waste a lot of a lot of time and they waste a lot of money on co-pays and when you calculate money on co-pays and when you calculate money on co-pays and when you calculate all that up it's a huge loss so when P all that up it's a huge loss so when P all that up it's a huge loss so when P when it comes to investing in your own when it comes to investing in your own when it comes to investing in your own health most people think that that's a health most people think that that's a health most people think that that's a foreign concept or they wouldn't always foreign concept or they wouldn't always foreign concept or they wouldn't always stick within their insurance I'm gonna stick within their insurance I'm gonna stick within their insurance I'm gonna tell you it's gonna keep you on the tell you it's gonna keep you on the tell you it's gonna keep you on the merry-go-round of not knowing what the merry-go-round of not knowing what the merry-go-round of not knowing what the heck is wrong with you not feeling heck is wrong with you not feeling heck is wrong with you not feeling hopeless because you don't feel like hopeless because you don't feel like hopeless because you don't feel like you're getting any solutions or your you're getting any solutions or your you're getting any solutions or your only solution is really coming down to a only solution is really coming down to a only solution is really coming down to a pillow or an injection so if you want pillow or an injection so if you want pillow or an injection so if you want more and you want to understand what's more and you want to understand what's more and you want to understand what's going on and you want to have solutions going on and you want to have solutions going on and you want to have solutions and you want to be in the driver's seat and you want to be in the driver's seat and you want to be in the driver's seat because you want to know what can I do because you want to know what can I do because you want to know what can I do what can I eat what supplements can I what can I eat what supplements can I what can I eat what supplements can I take then it's really a matter of take then it's really a matter of take then it's really a matter of knowing what the heck is the actual root knowing what the heck is the actual root knowing what the heck is the actual root cause so for us we serve people we don't cause so for us we serve people we don't cause so for us we serve people we don't serve insurance providers what's serve insurance providers what's serve insurance providers what's great is most of our patients get great is most of our patients get great is most of our patients get amazing out of network coverage but we amazing out of network coverage but we amazing out of network coverage but we ought to spend time we ought to do ought to spend time we ought to do ought to spend time we ought to do better testing and because of that we better testing and because of that we better testing and because of that we are not gonna let the insurance are not gonna let the insurance are not gonna let the insurance companies dictate what we do we don't do companies dictate what we do we don't do companies dictate what we do we don't do because thermo doctors and they don't because thermo doctors and they don't because thermo doctors and they don't know they don't know anything about you know they don't know anything about you know they don't know anything about you they don't know anything about the they don't know anything about the they don't know anything about the patient so overall it's really just a patient so overall it's really just a patient so overall it's really just a matter of understanding that the system matter of understanding that the system matter of understanding that the system is set up to keep you in that sick is set up to keep you in that sick is set up to keep you in that sick paradigm and it's the functional paradigm and it's the functional paradigm and it's the functional integrated practitioners that are integrated practitioners that are integrated practitioners that are stepping outside of that to give better stepping outside of that to give better stepping outside of that to give better answers so some of you listening might answers so some of you listening might answers so some of you listening might be there what the heck is the difference be there what the heck is the difference be there what the heck is the difference between functional integrative medicine between functional integrative medicine between functional integrative medicine so I will tell you is that social disand so I will tell you is that social disand so I will tell you is that social disand uses that they're testing so we do uses that they're testing so we do uses that they're testing so we do better blood testing we definitely do better blood testing we definitely do better blood testing we definitely do stool samples we do all of these fancy stool samples we do all of these fancy stool samples we do all of these fancy tasks to really decipher what's the root tasks to really decipher what's the root tasks to really decipher what's the root cause but what I found is functional cause but what I found is functional cause but what I found is functional medicine had limited tools in the medicine had limited tools in the medicine had limited tools in the toolbox it was focused on diet and toolbox it was focused on diet and toolbox it was focused on diet and supplements most of the patients that supplements most of the patients that supplements most of the patients that have gotten to me they've already tried have gotten to me they've already tried have gotten to me they've already tried that that that they've already been there done that so they've already been there done that so they've already been there done that so we have evolved our process to have more we have evolved our process to have more we have evolved our process to have more tools to understand is there more that tools to understand is there more that tools to understand is there more that needs to be offered does this person needs to be offered does this person needs to be offered does this person need detox approaches this does this need detox approaches this does this need detox approaches this does this person need lymphatic approaches is person need lymphatic approaches is person need lymphatic approaches is their neurological piece of the puzzle their neurological piece of the puzzle their neurological piece of the puzzle are there physical pieces of the puzzle are there physical pieces of the puzzle are there physical pieces of the puzzle when you look at the whole body you can when you look at the whole body you can when you look at the whole body you can literally decipher what is best for the literally decipher what is best for the literally decipher what is best for the person and that's the really cool part person and that's the really cool part person and that's the really cool part about it is that someone can literally about it is that someone can literally about it is that someone can literally have psoriasis and yeah maybe you do have psoriasis and yeah maybe you do have psoriasis and yeah maybe you do some things topically for them but then some things topically for them but then some things topically for them but then you actually start doing lymphatic you actually start doing lymphatic you actually start doing lymphatic drainage or different types of lymphatic drainage or different types of lymphatic drainage or different types of lymphatic therapies and you start to see the skin therapies and you start to see the skin therapies and you start to see the skin issues dissipate so you're dealing with issues dissipate so you're dealing with issues dissipate so you're dealing with a system that usually is being ignored a system that usually is being ignored a system that usually is being ignored in the event of psoriasis because it's in the event of psoriasis because it's in the event of psoriasis because it's just being thought oh it's just a skin just being thought oh it's just a skin just being thought oh it's just a skin issue so just put some steroids on it to issue so just put some steroids on it to issue so just put some steroids on it to calm it down calm it down calm it down so when it becomes too often like so when it becomes too often like so when it becomes too often like working with psoriasis and working with working with psoriasis and working with working with psoriasis and working with a lot of different chronic illnesses is a lot of different chronic illnesses is a lot of different chronic illnesses is that we literally have a team of people that we literally have a team of people that we literally have a team of people that are all going to that are all going to that are all going to we'll be expert in different things so we'll be expert in different things so we'll be expert in different things so when you come to our facility we when you come to our facility we when you come to our facility we literally are you're working with the literally are you're working with the literally are you're working with the doctor you're working with a doctor you're working with a doctor you're working with a nutritionist you're working with a nutritionist you're working with a nutritionist you're working with a health coach and then you're also health coach and then you're also health coach and then you're also working with other practitioners that working with other practitioners that working with other practitioners that have a variety of expertise some of them have a variety of expertise some of them have a variety of expertise some of them it's functional neurology some of it is it's functional neurology some of it is it's functional neurology some of it is something called craniosacral therapy something called craniosacral therapy something called craniosacral therapy some of it is detox therapies so you are some of it is detox therapies so you are some of it is detox therapies so you are literally getting a team of people that literally getting a team of people that literally getting a team of people that understand your case and all have understand your case and all have understand your case and all have different skill sets on how to help you different skill sets on how to help you different skill sets on how to help you so it's a really cool thing we've so it's a really cool thing we've so it's a really cool thing we've definitely evolved how we work with our definitely evolved how we work with our definitely evolved how we work with our patients over time and we've done that patients over time and we've done that patients over time and we've done that just because we see the needs we see the just because we see the needs we see the just because we see the needs we see the needs that everyone has to really be needs that everyone has to really be needs that everyone has to really be able to walk away with results but also able to walk away with results but also able to walk away with results but also with tools that they apply beyond our with tools that they apply beyond our with tools that they apply beyond our doors so it's really amazing that doors so it's really amazing that doors so it's really amazing that everything is so customized and everything is so customized and everything is so customized and personalized so when I when we talk to personalized so when I when we talk to personalized so when I when we talk to you about diet this is not like oh well you about diet this is not like oh well you about diet this is not like oh well this is a good diet for psoriasis no no this is a good diet for psoriasis no no this is a good diet for psoriasis no no this is the diet for you this is exactly this is the diet for you this is exactly this is the diet for you this is exactly what your body needs and in addition to what your body needs and in addition to what your body needs and in addition to that is the whole supplement thing so if that is the whole supplement thing so if that is the whole supplement thing so if some of you listening right now may have some of you listening right now may have some of you listening right now may have already gone to some type of functional already gone to some type of functional already gone to some type of functional practice and you might have an arsenal practice and you might have an arsenal practice and you might have an arsenal of supplement that they're like done of supplement that they're like done of supplement that they're like done with them or I don't even think half of with them or I don't even think half of with them or I don't even think half of them work them work them work trust me been there done that I know I trust me been there done that I know I trust me been there done that I know I literally I think at one point in time literally I think at one point in time literally I think at one point in time before we do what we do now I think I before we do what we do now I think I before we do what we do now I think I had maybe $25,000 of supplements in a had maybe $25,000 of supplements in a had maybe $25,000 of supplements in a cabinet because you're you're doing what cabinet because you're you're doing what cabinet because you're you're doing what the research says or you're doing what the research says or you're doing what the research says or you're doing what you've seen work and I will tell you I you've seen work and I will tell you I you've seen work and I will tell you I don't do that anymore because I was so don't do that anymore because I was so don't do that anymore because I was so sick of medicine being cookie cutter and sick of medicine being cookie cutter and sick of medicine being cookie cutter and I was sick of it being literally just I was sick of it being literally just I was sick of it being literally just being subjective it was just based off being subjective it was just based off being subjective it was just based off of opinion and it was also based off of of opinion and it was also based off of of opinion and it was also based off of what I've seen work in the past and I'm what I've seen work in the past and I'm what I've seen work in the past and I'm not just talking about me I'm talking not just talking about me I'm talking not just talking about me I'm talking about literally the whole industry so we about literally the whole industry so we about literally the whole industry so we worked really hard to figure out how can worked really hard to figure out how can worked really hard to figure out how can we leverage better testing to actually we leverage better testing to actually we leverage better testing to actually stop guessing stop guessing stop guessing test everything literally we test test everything literally we test test everything literally we test everything we test what supplements do everything we test what supplements do everything we test what supplements do you need we test what therapies you need you need we test what therapies you need you need we test what therapies you need what detox approaches are best for you what detox approaches are best for you what detox approaches are best for you we literally test everything so when we we literally test everything so when we we literally test everything so when we tell you this is what you need to get tell you this is what you need to get tell you this is what you need to get better there is no like winging it there better there is no like winging it there better there is no like winging it there is no oh let's hope that it works is no oh let's hope that it works is no oh let's hope that it works there's no trial and error and I don't there's no trial and error and I don't there's no trial and error and I don't say that to act like in sunshine and say that to act like in sunshine and say that to act like in sunshine and rainbows because a healing process rainbows because a healing process rainbows because a healing process there's always ups and downs that's just there's always ups and downs that's just there's always ups and downs that's just the reality of it but we will always the reality of it but we will always the reality of it but we will always troubleshoot to make sure that we are on troubleshoot to make sure that we are on troubleshoot to make sure that we are on the right track and you also have a team the right track and you also have a team the right track and you also have a team of support as we go through that process of support as we go through that process of support as we go through that process because you need it this is new because you need it this is new because you need it this is new you don't need like you're learning all you don't need like you're learning all you don't need like you're learning all these new things about your body you these new things about your body you these new things about your body you need to have somebody really helping you need to have somebody really helping you need to have somebody really helping you understand what is happening are the understand what is happening are the understand what is happening are the changes good bad normal if they're not changes good bad normal if they're not changes good bad normal if they're not how are we gonna change that etc so we how are we gonna change that etc so we how are we gonna change that etc so we understand that this is a huge learning understand that this is a huge learning understand that this is a huge learning curve and we have provided a way that curve and we have provided a way that curve and we have provided a way that you really get concierge support as we you really get concierge support as we you really get concierge support as we go through the process which has go through the process which has go through the process which has definitely been something that we find definitely been something that we find definitely been something that we find is just invaluable when you're really is just invaluable when you're really is just invaluable when you're really starting to get your house on track so starting to get your house on track so starting to get your house on track so some of the other really cool things some of the other really cool things some of the other really cool things about our testing is like I mentioned about our testing is like I mentioned about our testing is like I mentioned before I see some of you guys are just before I see some of you guys are just before I see some of you guys are just hopping on now but a lot of our testing hopping on now but a lot of our testing hopping on now but a lot of our testing that we do is DNA based so the cool that we do is DNA based so the cool that we do is DNA based so the cool thing about it is that we can actually thing about it is that we can actually thing about it is that we can actually do testing from a distance so we do work do testing from a distance so we do work do testing from a distance so we do work with patients from all over the world with patients from all over the world with patients from all over the world literally world's not country which has literally world's not country which has literally world's not country which has been really really awesome but you have been really really awesome but you have been really really awesome but you have DNA in your hair mm-hmm so simply by DNA in your hair mm-hmm so simply by DNA in your hair mm-hmm so simply by sending us a hair sample we can actually sending us a hair sample we can actually sending us a hair sample we can actually do your testing from a distance and then do your testing from a distance and then do your testing from a distance and then blood work and all that gets sourced blood work and all that gets sourced blood work and all that gets sourced local to where you live so if you are local to where you live so if you are local to where you live so if you are someone who's long-distance or you have someone who's long-distance or you have someone who's long-distance or you have someone in mind that has been dealing someone in mind that has been dealing someone in mind that has been dealing with psoriasis and you're like oh I wish with psoriasis and you're like oh I wish with psoriasis and you're like oh I wish they could have access to your practice they could have access to your practice they could have access to your practice they can because we can do a lot of they can because we can do a lot of they can because we can do a lot of different things from a distance so different things from a distance so different things from a distance so we've definitely we work with people we've definitely we work with people we've definitely we work with people from all over the place and we've seen from all over the place and we've seen from all over the place and we've seen awesome results with doing things from a awesome results with doing things from a awesome results with doing things from a distance as well and just helping them distance as well and just helping them distance as well and just helping them just source things to their local area just source things to their local area just source things to their local area which has been really really awesome so which has been really really awesome so which has been really really awesome so another big thing too is that if another big thing too is that if another big thing too is that if somebody is long distance and they are somebody is long distance and they are somebody is long distance and they are looking like they really feel like they looking like they really feel like they looking like they really feel like they need to come need to come need to come we do offer something called immersion we do offer something called immersion we do offer something called immersion beats which helps people to get care in beats which helps people to get care in beats which helps people to get care in our facility over the course of a week our facility over the course of a week our facility over the course of a week to two weeks so this is definitely to two weeks so this is definitely to two weeks so this is definitely something that we kind of map out if we something that we kind of map out if we something that we kind of map out if we think it's a good fit and then other think it's a good fit and then other think it's a good fit and then other people we choose to kind of continue to people we choose to kind of continue to people we choose to kind of continue to work from a distance depending on their work from a distance depending on their work from a distance depending on their case specifically but overall just to case specifically but overall just to case specifically but overall just to kind of give you guys a rundown um when kind of give you guys a rundown um when kind of give you guys a rundown um when you work with us you literally get a you work with us you literally get a you work with us you literally get a boatload of things under what we call boatload of things under what we call boatload of things under what we call our onboarding process so we have our onboarding process so we have our onboarding process so we have changed what we do over time and the changed what we do over time and the changed what we do over time and the reason being is because prior it used to reason being is because prior it used to reason being is because prior it used to be about come in do your consultation be about come in do your consultation be about come in do your consultation and then you leave and you have to do and then you leave and you have to do and then you leave and you have to do all of these kits you have to do all of all of these kits you have to do all of all of these kits you have to do all of these like saliva tests urine tests these like saliva tests urine tests these like saliva tests urine tests blood tests and all of them cost money blood tests and all of them cost money blood tests and all of them cost money and easily depending on the person that and easily depending on the person that and easily depending on the person that can rack up to a couple thousand dollars can rack up to a couple thousand dollars can rack up to a couple thousand dollars yes that is the reality of it so I yes that is the reality of it so I yes that is the reality of it so I personally didn't love doing that and I personally didn't love doing that and I personally didn't love doing that and I also found that I didn't get great also found that I didn't get great also found that I didn't get great results so what we started to do is we results so what we started to do is we results so what we started to do is we started to leverage a lot of this DNA started to leverage a lot of this DNA started to leverage a lot of this DNA B's testing that I mentioned prior so B's testing that I mentioned prior so B's testing that I mentioned prior so the DNA based testing literally is done the DNA based testing literally is done the DNA based testing literally is done through either in person or through the through either in person or through the through either in person or through the hair sample we have we do a full hair sample we have we do a full hair sample we have we do a full nutrition evaluation health coaching nutrition evaluation health coaching nutrition evaluation health coaching evaluation we do a neurological evaluation we do a neurological evaluation we do a neurological evaluation we do the visit with a doctor evaluation we do the visit with a doctor evaluation we do the visit with a doctor and then we also do bioenergetic testing and then we also do bioenergetic testing and then we also do bioenergetic testing we do something called autonomic we do something called autonomic we do something called autonomic response testing heavy metals testing response testing heavy metals testing response testing heavy metals testing mineral testing vitamin testing food mineral testing vitamin testing food mineral testing vitamin testing food allergy testing literally we do allergy testing literally we do allergy testing literally we do everything and that falls under our everything and that falls under our everything and that falls under our onboarding process so our onboarding onboarding process so our onboarding onboarding process so our onboarding process is a flat rate of 1997 process is a flat rate of 1997 process is a flat rate of 1997 so not $19 1900 or 1997 so I know that so not $19 1900 or 1997 so I know that so not $19 1900 or 1997 so I know that for some of you this world might be for some of you this world might be for some of you this world might be thinking wow that's crazy I've never thinking wow that's crazy I've never thinking wow that's crazy I've never spent that much money on my health I spent that much money on my health I spent that much money on my health I promise you there are no surprises it's promise you there are no surprises it's promise you there are no surprises it's going to cover all of your testing it's going to cover all of your testing it's going to cover all of your testing it's going to cover all of your visits it's going to cover all of your visits it's going to cover all of your visits it's going to cover customized nutrition plan going to cover customized nutrition plan going to cover customized nutrition plan customized supplement program all the customized supplement program all the customized supplement program all the good stuff so with that being said it good stuff so with that being said it good stuff so with that being said it will be the best money that you ever will be the best money that you ever will be the best money that you ever spent on your health because it is going spent on your health because it is going spent on your health because it is going to cover every single aspect that you to cover every single aspect that you to cover every single aspect that you have not been told yet about your health have not been told yet about your health have not been told yet about your health or or or about the origin of how you develop this about the origin of how you develop this about the origin of how you develop this condition in the first place so I want condition in the first place so I want condition in the first place so I want to take a peek to see if there are any to take a peek to see if there are any to take a peek to see if there are any questions so one of the questions from questions so one of the questions from questions so one of the questions from Gabrielle is one of the some of the ways Gabrielle is one of the some of the ways Gabrielle is one of the some of the ways that we can encourage limb flow in the that we can encourage limb flow in the that we can encourage limb flow in the body so first and foremost is the body so first and foremost is the body so first and foremost is the easiest thing you guys can do at home is easiest thing you guys can do at home is easiest thing you guys can do at home is dry brushing if you want to understand dry brushing if you want to understand dry brushing if you want to understand what dry brushing is go to our YouTube what dry brushing is go to our YouTube what dry brushing is go to our YouTube integrative Wellness Group and type in integrative Wellness Group and type in integrative Wellness Group and type in dry brushing and it will give you an dry brushing and it will give you an dry brushing and it will give you an example of how to do it a dry brush is example of how to do it a dry brush is example of how to do it a dry brush is like ten dollars on Amazon but also one like ten dollars on Amazon but also one like ten dollars on Amazon but also one of the biggest things that is super of the biggest things that is super of the biggest things that is super super beneficial for your lymph is super beneficial for your lymph is super beneficial for your lymph is infrared sauna infrared sauna is infrared sauna infrared sauna is infrared sauna infrared sauna is definitely one of the biggest game definitely one of the biggest game definitely one of the biggest game changers I've seen in patients that have changers I've seen in patients that have changers I've seen in patients that have psoriasis and what that it's very psoriasis and what that it's very psoriasis and what that it's very different than a regular sauna just so different than a regular sauna just so different than a regular sauna just so you guys understand infrared sauna is you guys understand infrared sauna is you guys understand infrared sauna is something that heats you from the inside something that heats you from the inside something that heats you from the inside out so it is actually mimicking a fever out so it is actually mimicking a fever out so it is actually mimicking a fever and it's helping you to burn off what is and it's helping you to burn off what is and it's helping you to burn off what is in the lymphatic system so it helps your in the lymphatic system so it helps your in the lymphatic system so it helps your immune system in your body overall but immune system in your body overall but immune system in your body overall but is very very good for skin conditions is very very good for skin conditions is very very good for skin conditions another thing that you could do at home another thing that you could do at home another thing that you could do at home is rebounding it's literally a mini is rebounding it's literally a mini is rebounding it's literally a mini trampoline you can jump up and down trampoline you can jump up and down trampoline you can jump up and down that's definitely really really helpful that's definitely really really helpful that's definitely really really helpful as well but I will tell you this guys is as well but I will tell you this guys is as well but I will tell you this guys is that I definitely always want it to be that I definitely always want it to be that I definitely always want it to be super simple for patients I really hope super simple for patients I really hope super simple for patients I really hope that you could do dry brushing and you that you could do dry brushing and you that you could do dry brushing and you can pretty much solve all of your can pretty much solve all of your can pretty much solve all of your problems and fix your psoriasis but one problems and fix your psoriasis but one problems and fix your psoriasis but one thing that I think is important to know thing that I think is important to know thing that I think is important to know is that it's sometimes about strategy is that it's sometimes about strategy is that it's sometimes about strategy because I have some people that come to because I have some people that come to because I have some people that come to me and they say I've already done me and they say I've already done me and they say I've already done infrared saunas and it didn't work infrared saunas and it didn't work infrared saunas and it didn't work I already did dry brushing and it didn't I already did dry brushing and it didn't I already did dry brushing and it didn't work and what I help them to understand work and what I help them to understand work and what I help them to understand is that it doesn't mean that those is that it doesn't mean that those is that it doesn't mean that those therapies were bad or they didn't work therapies were bad or they didn't work therapies were bad or they didn't work but sometimes they were not used but sometimes they were not used but sometimes they were not used strategically so like I'll give you guys strategically so like I'll give you guys strategically so like I'll give you guys a really basic example so if say you a really basic example so if say you a really basic example so if say you come in and you have psoriasis and we come in and you have psoriasis and we come in and you have psoriasis and we find out that your liver your lymphatic find out that your liver your lymphatic find out that your liver your lymphatic system and your kidneys are all system and your kidneys are all system and your kidneys are all compromised because those are your three compromised because those are your three compromised because those are your three big filters so if you come into my big filters so if you come into my big filters so if you come into my office and I I have office and I I have office and I I have a therapy called by residents and the a therapy called by residents and the a therapy called by residents and the bioresonance I can work on your lymph bioresonance I can work on your lymph bioresonance I can work on your lymph nodes and I can help them drain better nodes and I can help them drain better nodes and I can help them drain better so if I work on the lymph nodes and I so if I work on the lymph nodes and I so if I work on the lymph nodes and I start to get them to drain better what start to get them to drain better what start to get them to drain better what can happen is that starts to bring a lot can happen is that starts to bring a lot can happen is that starts to bring a lot of things to the surface so if that call of things to the surface so if that call of things to the surface so if that call comes to the surface then we need to comes to the surface then we need to comes to the surface then we need to make sure that your body can get rid of make sure that your body can get rid of make sure that your body can get rid of it and deal with it so if you have a it and deal with it so if you have a it and deal with it so if you have a lymphatic issue then what we would do is lymphatic issue then what we would do is lymphatic issue then what we would do is we would actually help your body use we would actually help your body use we would actually help your body use things and conjunction with each other things and conjunction with each other things and conjunction with each other so very often when somebody has a bad so very often when somebody has a bad so very often when somebody has a bad lymphatic system bad liver and kidneys lymphatic system bad liver and kidneys lymphatic system bad liver and kidneys is that they're taking supplements to is that they're taking supplements to is that they're taking supplements to support the liver then they will do support the liver then they will do support the liver then they will do their infrared sauna and do a their infrared sauna and do a their infrared sauna and do a detoxification foot bath because the detoxification foot bath because the detoxification foot bath because the sauna helps the lymph the detoxification sauna helps the lymph the detoxification sauna helps the lymph the detoxification foot bath actually helps the kidneys so foot bath actually helps the kidneys so foot bath actually helps the kidneys so literally you're helping everything to literally you're helping everything to literally you're helping everything to work together which I think I'm work together which I think I'm work together which I think I'm answering your question Elena you're answering your question Elena you're answering your question Elena you're helping everything to work together so helping everything to work together so helping everything to work together so that you're not like detoxing to retox that you're not like detoxing to retox that you're not like detoxing to retox so if you've done a detox before and you so if you've done a detox before and you so if you've done a detox before and you got the headaches and you felt tired and got the headaches and you felt tired and got the headaches and you felt tired and you felt sick that's because you were you felt sick that's because you were you felt sick that's because you were bringing a bunch of crap to the surface bringing a bunch of crap to the surface bringing a bunch of crap to the surface but your body couldn't get rid of it so but your body couldn't get rid of it so but your body couldn't get rid of it so you have to understand it's about you have to understand it's about you have to understand it's about strategy it's not about doing one thing strategy it's not about doing one thing strategy it's not about doing one thing that's why we do what we do now and that's why we do what we do now and that's why we do what we do now and that's why we're an integrative practice that's why we're an integrative practice that's why we're an integrative practice is because we're gonna fuse things is because we're gonna fuse things is because we're gonna fuse things together that are gonna complement each together that are gonna complement each together that are gonna complement each other and another big one that's really other and another big one that's really other and another big one that's really really often miss is scars one of the really often miss is scars one of the really often miss is scars one of the biggest things with our Isis patients biggest things with our Isis patients biggest things with our Isis patients that we end up working on that screws up that we end up working on that screws up that we end up working on that screws up their lymphatic flow is scars and their lymphatic flow is scars and their lymphatic flow is scars and especially women that have had especially women that have had especially women that have had c-sections so we end up working on c-sections so we end up working on c-sections so we end up working on different areas of scar tissue and we different areas of scar tissue and we different areas of scar tissue and we get the scar tissue broken down and then get the scar tissue broken down and then get the scar tissue broken down and then that allows the lymph to work again and that allows the lymph to work again and that allows the lymph to work again and allows the drainage to work again which allows the drainage to work again which allows the drainage to work again which then helps the skin issues so again then helps the skin issues so again then helps the skin issues so again these are not things that you guys are these are not things that you guys are these are not things that you guys are thinking about you understand these are thinking about you understand these are thinking about you understand these are not things a lot of doctors even know not things a lot of doctors even know not things a lot of doctors even know about but we have learned these things about but we have learned these things about but we have learned these things time and we test for them now so I time and we test for them now so I time and we test for them now so I literally had a girl the other day that literally had a girl the other day that literally had a girl the other day that she has all of these rashes all over her she has all of these rashes all over her she has all of these rashes all over her body body body and one of the biggest things that she and one of the biggest things that she and one of the biggest things that she tested for was doing scar release and I tested for was doing scar release and I tested for was doing scar release and I was like do you have scars and she was like do you have scars and she was like do you have scars and she literally like lifted up her shirt and literally like lifted up her shirt and literally like lifted up her shirt and showed me her back and she had like 15 showed me her back and she had like 15 showed me her back and she had like 15 spars all over sort of it Moulson spars all over sort of it Moulson spars all over sort of it Moulson treasons and I was like this is part of treasons and I was like this is part of treasons and I was like this is part of your immune reactions is the amount of your immune reactions is the amount of your immune reactions is the amount of scars and scar tissue you have so in her scars and scar tissue you have so in her scars and scar tissue you have so in her mom's like oh my gosh like I never even mom's like oh my gosh like I never even mom's like oh my gosh like I never even thought about that so so with that being thought about that so so with that being thought about that so so with that being said Elena your question is can you said Elena your question is can you said Elena your question is can you detox pathways be working well detox pathways be working well detox pathways be working well individually but not together yes that individually but not together yes that individually but not together yes that would be a bit more neurological um would be a bit more neurological um would be a bit more neurological um still like one of your detox pathways is still like one of your detox pathways is still like one of your detox pathways is your gut so there are a lot of people your gut so there are a lot of people your gut so there are a lot of people that don't poop they don't go to the that don't poop they don't go to the that don't poop they don't go to the bathroom every day and sometimes you bathroom every day and sometimes you bathroom every day and sometimes you know go to the bathroom every day know go to the bathroom every day know go to the bathroom every day because you have a gut problem some because you have a gut problem some because you have a gut problem some people it's a neurological control people it's a neurological control people it's a neurological control problem which comes from tickle the problem which comes from tickle the problem which comes from tickle the vagus nerve so if your brain is not vagus nerve so if your brain is not vagus nerve so if your brain is not communicating with your gut through the communicating with your gut through the communicating with your gut through the vagus nerve properly and honestly your vagus nerve properly and honestly your vagus nerve properly and honestly your vagus nerve can be screwed up cuz you vagus nerve can be screwed up cuz you vagus nerve can be screwed up cuz you had a neck injury or whiplash but if had a neck injury or whiplash but if had a neck injury or whiplash but if that is not communicating properly you that is not communicating properly you that is not communicating properly you could be constipated and you're not could be constipated and you're not could be constipated and you're not pooping pooping pooping okay you're not detoxing so yes you can okay you're not detoxing so yes you can okay you're not detoxing so yes you can definitely have certain detox organs definitely have certain detox organs definitely have certain detox organs working but maybe they're not working working but maybe they're not working working but maybe they're not working together because of a neurological issue together because of a neurological issue together because of a neurological issue or they're not working together because or they're not working together because or they're not working together because of scar tissue so there's definitely a of scar tissue so there's definitely a of scar tissue so there's definitely a lot of possibilities on all of those lot of possibilities on all of those lot of possibilities on all of those different systems and how how they work different systems and how how they work different systems and how how they work and really work together essentially so and really work together essentially so and really work together essentially so sue the nice news I'm just for testing sue the nice news I'm just for testing sue the nice news I'm just for testing what kind of expenses can you expect as what kind of expenses can you expect as what kind of expenses can you expect as a test a good question shock so the a test a good question shock so the a test a good question shock so the testing it's not just your testing so testing it's not just your testing so testing it's not just your testing so it's your consultation it's your meeting it's your consultation it's your meeting it's your consultation it's your meeting with your health coach your meeting with with your health coach your meeting with with your health coach your meeting with your nutritionist it's all of your your nutritionist it's all of your your nutritionist it's all of your testing Venise covering your reporte testing Venise covering your reporte testing Venise covering your reporte findings which is when you go over all findings which is when you go over all findings which is when you go over all of you of you of you or results and then you also have a or results and then you also have a or results and then you also have a separate session with the nutritionist separate session with the nutritionist separate session with the nutritionist where she goes over all of your dietary where she goes over all of your dietary where she goes over all of your dietary stuff as well so from there the stuff as well so from there the stuff as well so from there the supplements are something that would be supplements are something that would be supplements are something that would be purchased separately because they're purchased separately because they're purchased separately because they're customized so I have no idea what they customized so I have no idea what they customized so I have no idea what they will look like because they're so will look like because they're so will look like because they're so different every person so that's a different every person so that's a different every person so that's a separate cost after the fact and then separate cost after the fact and then separate cost after the fact and then depending on the person depending on how depending on the person depending on how depending on the person depending on how often we work together and how how many often we work together and how how many often we work together and how how many things we need to do I would say most things we need to do I would say most things we need to do I would say most patients there we work with them a lot patients there we work with them a lot patients there we work with them a lot of people come like once a week some of people come like once a week some of people come like once a week some people come once every other week and people come once every other week and people come once every other week and when we work with them over that when when we work with them over that when when we work with them over that when you're coming in we're doing an you're coming in we're doing an you're coming in we're doing an integration of services so again like integration of services so again like integration of services so again like remember that that is who we are what we remember that that is who we are what we remember that that is who we are what we do so you might be doing some detox do so you might be doing some detox do so you might be doing some detox therapies you might be doing some therapies you might be doing some therapies you might be doing some physical therapy is you might be doing physical therapy is you might be doing physical therapy is you might be doing some neurological therapies so we do all some neurological therapies so we do all some neurological therapies so we do all of those things in accordance with each of those things in accordance with each of those things in accordance with each other and if we do that those types of other and if we do that those types of other and if we do that those types of therapies every week for say a month therapies every week for say a month therapies every week for say a month then I would say most people spend then I would say most people spend then I would say most people spend anywhere between 500 to up to like 1,500 anywhere between 500 to up to like 1,500 anywhere between 500 to up to like 1,500 a month and this is covering all of your a month and this is covering all of your a month and this is covering all of your different services but overall you're different services but overall you're different services but overall you're literally getting a ton for everything literally getting a ton for everything literally getting a ton for everything that we're doing and this is all there's that we're doing and this is all there's that we're doing and this is all there's payment plans and there's all that good payment plans and there's all that good payment plans and there's all that good stuff as well so I would say that's stuff as well so I would say that's stuff as well so I would say that's probably on average what people are probably on average what people are probably on average what people are looking at and we usually work with looking at and we usually work with looking at and we usually work with people around three months just so you people around three months just so you people around three months just so you know but most people at that point then know but most people at that point then know but most people at that point then they go on to some type of maintenance they go on to some type of maintenance they go on to some type of maintenance and just maintain their progress from and just maintain their progress from and just maintain their progress from there so we again it's so customized there so we again it's so customized there so we again it's so customized that's just a general ballpark so I'll that's just a general ballpark so I'll that's just a general ballpark so I'll give it a few minutes to see if there's give it a few minutes to see if there's give it a few minutes to see if there's any other questions that come up but any other questions that come up but any other questions that come up but overall I hope this was a ton of value overall I hope this was a ton of value overall I hope this was a ton of value to you guys psoriasis is definitely some to you guys psoriasis is definitely some to you guys psoriasis is definitely some thing that I know affects people thing that I know affects people thing that I know affects people mentally emotionally physically I know mentally emotionally physically I know mentally emotionally physically I know it's uncomfortable let alone just it's uncomfortable let alone just it's uncomfortable let alone just psychologically just really overwhelming psychologically just really overwhelming psychologically just really overwhelming because you know you're just super hyper because you know you're just super hyper because you know you're just super hyper conscious of of the way that you look conscious of of the way that you look conscious of of the way that you look and feel so when it comes to being able and feel so when it comes to being able and feel so when it comes to being able to have a solution and finally to have a solution and finally to have a solution and finally understand how to work with this and get understand how to work with this and get understand how to work with this and get that clarity you know it's just it's so that clarity you know it's just it's so that clarity you know it's just it's so significant for people and this is significant for people and this is significant for people and this is definitely one of the reasons why I do definitely one of the reasons why I do definitely one of the reasons why I do these webinars in the first place cause these webinars in the first place cause these webinars in the first place cause I think there's just so much confusion I think there's just so much confusion I think there's just so much confusion around these conditions and it's just around these conditions and it's just around these conditions and it's just like oh you have an autoimmune condition like oh you have an autoimmune condition like oh you have an autoimmune condition of Kali runs in your family and oh it's of Kali runs in your family and oh it's of Kali runs in your family and oh it's genetic and end of story when there's so genetic and end of story when there's so genetic and end of story when there's so many other possibilities and with all of many other possibilities and with all of many other possibilities and with all of those possibilities there's so many those possibilities there's so many those possibilities there's so many things that can be done to help it things that can be done to help it things that can be done to help it so I'm sorry I hope you guys really so I'm sorry I hope you guys really so I'm sorry I hope you guys really gained a lot of good information and gained a lot of good information and gained a lot of good information and we're gonna be talking more about skin we're gonna be talking more about skin we're gonna be talking more about skin conditions as we go through the rest of conditions as we go through the rest of conditions as we go through the rest of the month vitiligo is one of the ones the month vitiligo is one of the ones the month vitiligo is one of the ones that we're going to be talking about that we're going to be talking about that we're going to be talking about next so if you know anyone with vitiligo next so if you know anyone with vitiligo next so if you know anyone with vitiligo that you want to share the webinar with that you want to share the webinar with that you want to share the webinar with that would be awesome that would be awesome that would be awesome so I'm glad you guys I got to see my so I'm glad you guys I got to see my so I'm glad you guys I got to see my face the whole time because I my face the whole time because I my face the whole time because I my powerpoint didn't work but I hope you're powerpoint didn't work but I hope you're powerpoint didn't work but I hope you're still were able to follow along as we still were able to follow along as we still were able to follow along as we went through the process if you guys do went through the process if you guys do went through the process if you guys do want the webinar please or the power want the webinar please or the power want the webinar please or the power management site just let me know and I management site just let me know and I management site just let me know and I can send it to you guys as well Thank can send it to you guys as well Thank can send it to you guys as well Thank You Erin I appreciate it You Erin I appreciate it You Erin I appreciate it so I hope you guys have value and if you so I hope you guys have value and if you so I hope you guys have value and if you are following along for the rest of the are following along for the rest of the are following along for the rest of the month we're gonna be again continuing month we're gonna be again continuing month we're gonna be again continuing the conversation and then as we actually the conversation and then as we actually the conversation and then as we actually get into the later parts of the year get into the later parts of the year get into the later parts of the year you're gonna have some guest appearances you're gonna have some guest appearances you're gonna have some guest appearances on the webinars from our nutritionist on the webinars from our nutritionist on the webinars from our nutritionist Grace and dr. Nick and they're gonna be Grace and dr. Nick and they're gonna be Grace and dr. Nick and they're gonna be teaching you guys all about how to teaching you guys all about how to teaching you guys all about how to navigate through the holidays navigate through the holidays navigate through the holidays emotionally and nutritionally which I'm emotionally and nutritionally which I'm emotionally and nutritionally which I'm super excited about okay guys I will see super excited about okay guys I will see super excited about okay guys I will see you next week if you have any questions you next week if you have any questions you next week if you have any questions I always forget to do this but if you go I always forget to do this but if you go I always forget to do this but if you go to our site and you want to set up a to our site and you want to set up a to our site and you want to set up a strategy poll we do strategy calls strategy poll we do strategy calls strategy poll we do strategy calls completely for free so you can hop on a completely for free so you can hop on a completely for free so you can hop on a call with our team and you can talk a call with our team and you can talk a call with our team and you can talk a little bit more through about what's little bit more through about what's little bit more through about what's going on with you what are your going on with you what are your going on with you what are your expectations expectations expectations that what type what are you looking for that what type what are you looking for that what type what are you looking for from a healthcare experience and they from a healthcare experience and they from a healthcare experience and they can really help you understand more of can really help you understand more of can really help you understand more of the logistics about our onboarding the logistics about our onboarding the logistics about our onboarding process and all that good stuff so if process and all that good stuff so if process and all that good stuff so if you go to our site there are tons of you go to our site there are tons of you go to our site there are tons of links everywhere for you to set up that links everywhere for you to set up that links everywhere for you to set up that strategy ball one of the links is under strategy ball one of the links is under strategy ball one of the links is under the get started page so definitely check the get started page so definitely check the get started page so definitely check that out and and we hope to hear from that out and and we hope to hear from that out and and we hope to hear from you soon