Melatonin: The Master Detoxifier of the Brain

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I'm here with Nick as he's laughing I'm here with Nick as he's laughing I'm here with Nick as he's laughing because I said that my cortisol levels because I said that my cortisol levels because I said that my cortisol levels are burnt to a crisp as we get into this are burnt to a crisp as we get into this are burnt to a crisp as we get into this topic. topic. topic. So, um, So, um, So, um, trying to find the balance. It's not trying to find the balance. It's not trying to find the balance. It's not always easy. It's not always easy. Oh my always easy. It's not always easy. Oh my always easy. It's not always easy. Oh my gosh. So, today we are actually talking gosh. So, today we are actually talking gosh. So, today we are actually talking more about the conversation that we more about the conversation that we more about the conversation that we started on our last podcast in relation started on our last podcast in relation started on our last podcast in relation to melatonin and melatonin playing such to melatonin and melatonin playing such to melatonin and melatonin playing such a significant role in how well and a significant role in how well and a significant role in how well and efficiently our brain detoxifies. efficiently our brain detoxifies. efficiently our brain detoxifies. But when it comes to melatonin, it plays But when it comes to melatonin, it plays But when it comes to melatonin, it plays many many roles in the body and the many many roles in the body and the many many roles in the body and the brain and it also works inversely with brain and it also works inversely with brain and it also works inversely with cortisol. So, a lot of this comes back cortisol. So, a lot of this comes back cortisol. So, a lot of this comes back to our sleep and wake cycles. So the to our sleep and wake cycles. So the to our sleep and wake cycles. So the reason why we find this to be really reason why we find this to be really reason why we find this to be really important is because melatonin is known important is because melatonin is known important is because melatonin is known for sleep but it is not well known as for sleep but it is not well known as for sleep but it is not well known as being the master detoxifier at for the being the master detoxifier at for the being the master detoxifier at for the brain but also one of the um ultimate brain but also one of the um ultimate brain but also one of the um ultimate antioxidants of the entire body. So a antioxidants of the entire body. So a antioxidants of the entire body. So a lot of people uh especially that are lot of people uh especially that are lot of people uh especially that are familiar with this world they hear about familiar with this world they hear about familiar with this world they hear about uh glutathione and they think uh glutathione and they think uh glutathione and they think glutathione is you know the best glutathione is you know the best glutathione is you know the best detoxifier of the body and it is a good detoxifier of the body and it is a good detoxifier of the body and it is a good detoxifier but melatonin is actually detoxifier but melatonin is actually detoxifier but melatonin is actually better better better more powerful more powerful more powerful more powerful more powerful more powerful so so so not always better at the right time not always better at the right time not always better at the right time I will make the disclaimer now is please I will make the disclaimer now is please I will make the disclaimer now is please listen to the whole podcast because if listen to the whole podcast because if listen to the whole podcast because if you take away a couple tidbits and you you take away a couple tidbits and you you take away a couple tidbits and you go melatonin great detoxifier and then go melatonin great detoxifier and then go melatonin great detoxifier and then you go take high doses of it you will you go take high doses of it you will you go take high doses of it you will make yourself quite sick. So, uh, so make yourself quite sick. So, uh, so make yourself quite sick. So, uh, so really we want you guys to understand really we want you guys to understand really we want you guys to understand more about melatonin, you know, what it more about melatonin, you know, what it more about melatonin, you know, what it does in the body, how it plays a role in does in the body, how it plays a role in does in the body, how it plays a role in detox, but also how it can be leveraged detox, but also how it can be leveraged detox, but also how it can be leveraged and used in a really positive way, but and used in a really positive way, but and used in a really positive way, but definitely um under the supervision of a definitely um under the supervision of a definitely um under the supervision of a physician because there's many things physician because there's many things physician because there's many things that need to be considered um when using that need to be considered um when using that need to be considered um when using it. it. it. It's always a a right time and a wrong It's always a a right time and a wrong It's always a a right time and a wrong time for melatonin. time for melatonin. time for melatonin. 100%. 100%. 100%. So, first and foremost, uh, just kind of So, first and foremost, uh, just kind of So, first and foremost, uh, just kind of getting into the the cycles of getting into the the cycles of getting into the the cycles of melatonin, and I'm going to allow Nick melatonin, and I'm going to allow Nick melatonin, and I'm going to allow Nick to kind of take it a step further, but to kind of take it a step further, but to kind of take it a step further, but when we are talking about how melatonin when we are talking about how melatonin when we are talking about how melatonin and cortisol work, so cortisol is uh, and cortisol work, so cortisol is uh, and cortisol work, so cortisol is uh, classified as a stress hormone, but the classified as a stress hormone, but the classified as a stress hormone, but the thing is is that yes, it can be thing is is that yes, it can be thing is is that yes, it can be overproduced in the event that you're overproduced in the event that you're overproduced in the event that you're stressed or, you know, dealing with a stressed or, you know, dealing with a stressed or, you know, dealing with a lot of things emotionally, but cortisol lot of things emotionally, but cortisol lot of things emotionally, but cortisol is actually quite high in the morning is actually quite high in the morning is actually quite high in the morning and it's high to wake you up and to make and it's high to wake you up and to make and it's high to wake you up and to make you alert. when you're starting your day you alert. when you're starting your day you alert. when you're starting your day and as your day goes on and obviously and as your day goes on and obviously and as your day goes on and obviously the light changes your cortisol starts the light changes your cortisol starts the light changes your cortisol starts to decline and your melatonin starts to to decline and your melatonin starts to to decline and your melatonin starts to go up and your melatonin will peak you go up and your melatonin will peak you go up and your melatonin will peak you know in the evening time in order to get know in the evening time in order to get know in the evening time in order to get you tired enough to get to bed. So you tired enough to get to bed. So you tired enough to get to bed. So that's the normal way that it's supposed that's the normal way that it's supposed that's the normal way that it's supposed to work. Obviously, there are many, many to work. Obviously, there are many, many to work. Obviously, there are many, many people struggling with insomnia and people struggling with insomnia and people struggling with insomnia and sleep issues, which is really showing us sleep issues, which is really showing us sleep issues, which is really showing us that these pathways can be compromised. that these pathways can be compromised. that these pathways can be compromised. So, I'll let you talk a little bit more So, I'll let you talk a little bit more So, I'll let you talk a little bit more um about what you mentioned in the last um about what you mentioned in the last um about what you mentioned in the last podcast just in relation to, you know, podcast just in relation to, you know, podcast just in relation to, you know, light and devices and whatnot. light and devices and whatnot. light and devices and whatnot. So, yeah, there's like you said, there's So, yeah, there's like you said, there's So, yeah, there's like you said, there's many things that affect the imbalance of many things that affect the imbalance of many things that affect the imbalance of cortisol and melatonin. Um, one of that cortisol and melatonin. Um, one of that cortisol and melatonin. Um, one of that just being the stress on what we call just being the stress on what we call just being the stress on what we call the HPA access, which is the pretty much the HPA access, which is the pretty much the HPA access, which is the pretty much the connection between your brain to the connection between your brain to the connection between your brain to your adrenals because it's your adrenals your adrenals because it's your adrenals your adrenals because it's your adrenals that make your cortisol. Um, so if that that make your cortisol. Um, so if that that make your cortisol. Um, so if that connection is overly taxed uh or there's connection is overly taxed uh or there's connection is overly taxed uh or there's miscommunication between uh that miscommunication between uh that miscommunication between uh that process, then that's going to throw the process, then that's going to throw the process, then that's going to throw the imbalance of cortisol, which is going to imbalance of cortisol, which is going to imbalance of cortisol, which is going to throw the imbalance of melatonin. Um, throw the imbalance of melatonin. Um, throw the imbalance of melatonin. Um, maybe we'll get a little deeper into maybe we'll get a little deeper into maybe we'll get a little deeper into that later in the podcast, but for the that later in the podcast, but for the that later in the podcast, but for the most part, we want to, you know, first most part, we want to, you know, first most part, we want to, you know, first things first, focus on just making sure things first, focus on just making sure things first, focus on just making sure that your brain can produce the proper that your brain can produce the proper that your brain can produce the proper amount of melatonin and uh help you get amount of melatonin and uh help you get amount of melatonin and uh help you get to sleep and help the brain detox. So, to sleep and help the brain detox. So, to sleep and help the brain detox. So, there's a couple awesome hacks uh you there's a couple awesome hacks uh you there's a couple awesome hacks uh you can do. You know, we talked about uh can do. You know, we talked about uh can do. You know, we talked about uh first and foremost in that last podcast first and foremost in that last podcast first and foremost in that last podcast uh complete darkness. Darkness is going uh complete darkness. Darkness is going uh complete darkness. Darkness is going to be the biggest thing to be the biggest thing to be the biggest thing when you're going to sleep. when you're when you're going to sleep. when you're when you're going to sleep. when you're going to sleep um even before uh because going to sleep um even before uh because going to sleep um even before uh because you don't have to be in complete you don't have to be in complete you don't have to be in complete darkness before but what they found is a darkness before but what they found is a darkness before but what they found is a lot of times through you know whether lot of times through you know whether lot of times through you know whether it's being on a computer or an iPad TV it's being on a computer or an iPad TV it's being on a computer or an iPad TV it's really out of those things um part it's really out of those things um part it's really out of those things um part of the spectrum of blue light which is of the spectrum of blue light which is of the spectrum of blue light which is really uh the strongest negative aspect really uh the strongest negative aspect really uh the strongest negative aspect affecting the pineal gland um because in affecting the pineal gland um because in affecting the pineal gland um because in that it's really just it shuts down that that it's really just it shuts down that that it's really just it shuts down that production of melatonin alto together production of melatonin alto together production of melatonin alto together so if somebody has blue light blocking so if somebody has blue light blocking so if somebody has blue light blocking glasses. glasses. glasses. That's better. Um, it's still not the That's better. Um, it's still not the That's better. Um, it's still not the best because anytime that you are going best because anytime that you are going best because anytime that you are going through uh you're stimulating the brain through uh you're stimulating the brain through uh you're stimulating the brain differently with artificial light uh differently with artificial light uh differently with artificial light uh than natural light. So, it's going to be than natural light. So, it's going to be than natural light. So, it's going to be less stress on the pineal gland, but less stress on the pineal gland, but less stress on the pineal gland, but you're still going to be stressing uh you're still going to be stressing uh you're still going to be stressing uh the brain and the pineal gland uh when the brain and the pineal gland uh when the brain and the pineal gland uh when you're having those non um you're having those non um you're having those non um what do I want to say more synthetic uh what do I want to say more synthetic uh what do I want to say more synthetic uh light coming in into uh the brain light coming in into uh the brain light coming in into uh the brain through the eyes. So, speaking of that, through the eyes. So, speaking of that, through the eyes. So, speaking of that, I'm actually curious on your thoughts I'm actually curious on your thoughts I'm actually curious on your thoughts with fluorescent people that work in with fluorescent people that work in with fluorescent people that work in fluorescent lights all day. fluorescent lights all day. fluorescent lights all day. It's the worst. It's the worst. It's the worst. Um, there's there's actually a lot more Um, there's there's actually a lot more Um, there's there's actually a lot more research coming out. Um, I mean, there's research coming out. Um, I mean, there's research coming out. Um, I mean, there's they call them full spectrum lights. Uh, they call them full spectrum lights. Uh, they call them full spectrum lights. Uh, it's really a false advertisement it's really a false advertisement it's really a false advertisement because there's really no lights that because there's really no lights that because there's really no lights that are full spectrum. Uh, but they do give are full spectrum. Uh, but they do give are full spectrum. Uh, but they do give uh some uh of the benefits of each uh some uh of the benefits of each uh some uh of the benefits of each spectrum. So the Roy GB BIV red, orange, spectrum. So the Roy GB BIV red, orange, spectrum. So the Roy GB BIV red, orange, yellow, blue, indigo, violet. So there's yellow, blue, indigo, violet. So there's yellow, blue, indigo, violet. So there's lights out there that will give each lights out there that will give each lights out there that will give each property in those wavelengths, but not property in those wavelengths, but not property in those wavelengths, but not the entire spectrum of light. Um, but the entire spectrum of light. Um, but the entire spectrum of light. Um, but when you look why that is beneficial when you look why that is beneficial when you look why that is beneficial because each spectrum of light uh because each spectrum of light uh because each spectrum of light uh getting on a tangent here, but each getting on a tangent here, but each getting on a tangent here, but each spectrum of light uh affects the body spectrum of light uh affects the body spectrum of light uh affects the body differently and it affects different differently and it affects different differently and it affects different components of the body differently uh as components of the body differently uh as components of the body differently uh as well, especially when you look at the well, especially when you look at the well, especially when you look at the energetic uh aspect of the body. Like, energetic uh aspect of the body. Like, energetic uh aspect of the body. Like, so you're saying the full spectrum so you're saying the full spectrum so you're saying the full spectrum lights would be beneficial? lights would be beneficial? lights would be beneficial? Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah. And these are things that people can And these are things that people can And these are things that people can see. This is what's funny. We're married see. This is what's funny. We're married see. This is what's funny. We're married and like this is like how different our and like this is like how different our and like this is like how different our brains are. But brains are. But brains are. But no, you can go sell them on Amazon uh no, you can go sell them on Amazon uh no, you can go sell them on Amazon uh and you can replace um pretty much the and you can replace um pretty much the and you can replace um pretty much the majority of lights. majority of lights. majority of lights. Okay. So, when someone is in say the Okay. So, when someone is in say the Okay. So, when someone is in say the fluorescent lights because it's their fluorescent lights because it's their fluorescent lights because it's their job and you know they're kind of bound job and you know they're kind of bound job and you know they're kind of bound to that all day. um is that to that all day. um is that to that all day. um is that during during lunch, get outside, get during during lunch, get outside, get during during lunch, get outside, get some sunshine. some sunshine. some sunshine. But this is obviously playing a very But this is obviously playing a very But this is obviously playing a very significant role in elevating the significant role in elevating the significant role in elevating the cortisol and then elevating that to the cortisol and then elevating that to the cortisol and then elevating that to the point that they're probably not going to point that they're probably not going to point that they're probably not going to produce the melatonin efficiently when produce the melatonin efficiently when produce the melatonin efficiently when they're supposed to be going to bed. they're supposed to be going to bed. they're supposed to be going to bed. Yes. Uh and that's like if you can get Yes. Uh and that's like if you can get Yes. Uh and that's like if you can get outside, that is going to help because outside, that is going to help because outside, that is going to help because it's going to break that up and you're it's going to break that up and you're it's going to break that up and you're going to be getting the true full going to be getting the true full going to be getting the true full spectrum from the sun. spectrum from the sun. spectrum from the sun. Also, one of the best things you can do Also, one of the best things you can do Also, one of the best things you can do with that is actually grounding. Um, so with that is actually grounding. Um, so with that is actually grounding. Um, so if you can be barefoot uh on the ground, if you can be barefoot uh on the ground, if you can be barefoot uh on the ground, you know, grass is best. Um, well, grass you know, grass is best. Um, well, grass you know, grass is best. Um, well, grass is second best. The ocean is literally is second best. The ocean is literally is second best. The ocean is literally the best. Um, but with that, that's the best. Um, but with that, that's the best. Um, but with that, that's going to give you that connection so to going to give you that connection so to going to give you that connection so to the earth. Um, why that's so uh the earth. Um, why that's so uh the earth. Um, why that's so uh important is the earth resonates at important is the earth resonates at important is the earth resonates at Schuman resonance. It's called 7.8 uh Schuman resonance. It's called 7.8 uh Schuman resonance. It's called 7.8 uh hertz. And that will also help uh kind hertz. And that will also help uh kind hertz. And that will also help uh kind of reset that uh whole access as well. of reset that uh whole access as well. of reset that uh whole access as well. And there's some studies uh they're And there's some studies uh they're And there's some studies uh they're doing more research now um but that it's doing more research now um but that it's doing more research now um but that it's actually uh creating um it's increasing actually uh creating um it's increasing actually uh creating um it's increasing the health of the red blood cells more the health of the red blood cells more the health of the red blood cells more oxygenation more hemoglobin in it which oxygenation more hemoglobin in it which oxygenation more hemoglobin in it which is pretty cool as well. is pretty cool as well. is pretty cool as well. So grounding can be an awesome reset and So grounding can be an awesome reset and So grounding can be an awesome reset and it's free. Um I love free cheap things. it's free. Um I love free cheap things. it's free. Um I love free cheap things. So, this a little side tangent with all So, this a little side tangent with all So, this a little side tangent with all the light aspect, but any light does I the light aspect, but any light does I the light aspect, but any light does I mean it's going to pretty much stop that mean it's going to pretty much stop that mean it's going to pretty much stop that artificial light. artificial light. artificial light. Artificial light uh is going to stop Artificial light uh is going to stop Artificial light uh is going to stop that melatonin production. So, while that melatonin production. So, while that melatonin production. So, while you're sleeping, have your set your you're sleeping, have your set your you're sleeping, have your set your bedroom as like a little sanctuary uh bedroom as like a little sanctuary uh bedroom as like a little sanctuary uh where you don't have any lights, no where you don't have any lights, no where you don't have any lights, no night lights, nothing. Um complete night lights, nothing. Um complete night lights, nothing. Um complete darkness. Uh if you need get like darkness. Uh if you need get like darkness. Uh if you need get like blackout uh curtains, um definitely do blackout uh curtains, um definitely do blackout uh curtains, um definitely do that. It's going to be definitely worth that. It's going to be definitely worth that. It's going to be definitely worth the extra little cost. Well, it's just I the extra little cost. Well, it's just I the extra little cost. Well, it's just I like as you're even talking, it's just like as you're even talking, it's just like as you're even talking, it's just like thinking about the reality or I like thinking about the reality or I like thinking about the reality or I would say the reality for most people is would say the reality for most people is would say the reality for most people is that most people are working in, you that most people are working in, you that most people are working in, you know, corporate buildings and they're know, corporate buildings and they're know, corporate buildings and they're working in offices with artificial working in offices with artificial working in offices with artificial light. They're working on computers and light. They're working on computers and light. They're working on computers and other types of devices. other types of devices. other types of devices. Some people are so busy, you know, in Some people are so busy, you know, in Some people are so busy, you know, in through their day that they're not even through their day that they're not even through their day that they're not even getting outside. They're barely eating a getting outside. They're barely eating a getting outside. They're barely eating a real meal. and then they're getting home real meal. and then they're getting home real meal. and then they're getting home and they're so mentally fried that and they're so mentally fried that and they're so mentally fried that they're probably having a glass of wine they're probably having a glass of wine they're probably having a glass of wine and then they're trying to kind of numb and then they're trying to kind of numb and then they're trying to kind of numb themselves by putting on TV so they can themselves by putting on TV so they can themselves by putting on TV so they can forget about their day, let alone if you forget about their day, let alone if you forget about their day, let alone if you know they got a crappy email or ran into know they got a crappy email or ran into know they got a crappy email or ran into like some type of uh situation through like some type of uh situation through like some type of uh situation through that day. So if it was one glass of wine that day. So if it was one glass of wine that day. So if it was one glass of wine and it was French Italian somewhere and it was French Italian somewhere and it was French Italian somewhere besides that's actually beneficial besides that's actually beneficial besides that's actually beneficial because one glass will actually create because one glass will actually create because one glass will actually create vaso dilation uh so more blood flow and vaso dilation uh so more blood flow and vaso dilation uh so more blood flow and nutrients to the brain. nutrients to the brain. nutrients to the brain. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Two glasses or more the opposite Two glasses or more the opposite Two glasses or more the opposite constriction happens. So uh that's constriction happens. So uh that's constriction happens. So uh that's actually not a bad thing and it also uh actually not a bad thing and it also uh actually not a bad thing and it also uh energetically will ramp up the uh the energetically will ramp up the uh the energetically will ramp up the uh the liver. Um so it will actually help the liver. Um so it will actually help the liver. Um so it will actually help the liver produce um or function better liver produce um or function better liver produce um or function better um at that. um at that. um at that. A side tidbit. So if you are one of A side tidbit. So if you are one of A side tidbit. So if you are one of those workers that you can those workers that you can those workers that you can So you you're you just confused people So you you're you just confused people So you you're you just confused people because so let me clarify for Nick. So because so let me clarify for Nick. So because so let me clarify for Nick. So when you have a glass of wine um and it when you have a glass of wine um and it when you have a glass of wine um and it has the vasoddilation but what he's has the vasoddilation but what he's has the vasoddilation but what he's talking about with the liver is I know talking about with the liver is I know talking about with the liver is I know everybody hears about alcohol and they everybody hears about alcohol and they everybody hears about alcohol and they think you know obviously alcohol is think you know obviously alcohol is think you know obviously alcohol is negative for your liver but when you um negative for your liver but when you um negative for your liver but when you um have that glass of wine and it kind of have that glass of wine and it kind of have that glass of wine and it kind of calms down that fight orflight or calms down that fight orflight or calms down that fight orflight or sympathetic you know stress response you sympathetic you know stress response you sympathetic you know stress response you can actually mobilize like negative can actually mobilize like negative can actually mobilize like negative energy out of the liver because your energy out of the liver because your energy out of the liver because your liver actually tends to hold on to anger liver actually tends to hold on to anger liver actually tends to hold on to anger resentment. So if you had a bad day and resentment. So if you had a bad day and resentment. So if you had a bad day and you're grabbing for that glass of wine, you're grabbing for that glass of wine, you're grabbing for that glass of wine, sometimes it's an intuitive thing for sometimes it's an intuitive thing for sometimes it's an intuitive thing for your body to help you only one. your body to help you only one. your body to help you only one. But I wanted to jump back to that like But I wanted to jump back to that like But I wanted to jump back to that like corporate job or if you're inside corporate job or if you're inside corporate job or if you're inside underneath a flashlight, you're not underneath a flashlight, you're not underneath a flashlight, you're not getting one of the best things that you getting one of the best things that you getting one of the best things that you can do um little hack is, you know, can do um little hack is, you know, can do um little hack is, you know, whether it's a tennis ball or something, whether it's a tennis ball or something, whether it's a tennis ball or something, uh have that at underneath your desk, uh have that at underneath your desk, uh have that at underneath your desk, take your shoes off and roll that take your shoes off and roll that take your shoes off and roll that around. So underneath the like let's say around. So underneath the like let's say around. So underneath the like let's say this is your foot. Um, if you're this is your foot. Um, if you're this is your foot. Um, if you're listening to this, uh, I guess I'll try listening to this, uh, I guess I'll try listening to this, uh, I guess I'll try to paint a good picture, but underneath to paint a good picture, but underneath to paint a good picture, but underneath your foot on the pretty much like the your foot on the pretty much like the your foot on the pretty much like the highest aspect of your arch, uh, is your highest aspect of your arch, uh, is your highest aspect of your arch, uh, is your the meridian for your kidney, uh, your the meridian for your kidney, uh, your the meridian for your kidney, uh, your K1. So with that, your adrenals sit on K1. So with that, your adrenals sit on K1. So with that, your adrenals sit on top of the kidneys. Um, kidneys in top of the kidneys. Um, kidneys in top of the kidneys. Um, kidneys in Chinese medicine is your like your life Chinese medicine is your like your life Chinese medicine is your like your life force. So one of the things you can do force. So one of the things you can do force. So one of the things you can do is just rub your foot uh on that ball to is just rub your foot uh on that ball to is just rub your foot uh on that ball to stimulate that meridian point. It's stimulate that meridian point. It's stimulate that meridian point. It's going to be like acupressure. uh going to be like acupressure. uh going to be like acupressure. uh acupunctures when they're using needles, acupunctures when they're using needles, acupunctures when they're using needles, acupressures when you're just applying acupressures when you're just applying acupressures when you're just applying pressure to it to stimulate the meridian pressure to it to stimulate the meridian pressure to it to stimulate the meridian point, but that's going to signal more point, but that's going to signal more point, but that's going to signal more energy flow all the way up through the energy flow all the way up through the energy flow all the way up through the entire meridian to the kidneys to help entire meridian to the kidneys to help entire meridian to the kidneys to help support that even though you know you support that even though you know you support that even though you know you can't be outside and you can't have that can't be outside and you can't have that can't be outside and you can't have that grounding all day long. grounding all day long. grounding all day long. Yeah. Well, I think it's important to Yeah. Well, I think it's important to Yeah. Well, I think it's important to know too is that when we're talking know too is that when we're talking know too is that when we're talking about melatonin production, um it's it about melatonin production, um it's it about melatonin production, um it's it works top down and um it works top down works top down and um it works top down works top down and um it works top down and bottom up. So a lot of what we're and bottom up. So a lot of what we're and bottom up. So a lot of what we're talking about right now is if your talking about right now is if your talking about right now is if your cortisol is really elevated and that be cortisol is really elevated and that be cortisol is really elevated and that be can be because of stress. It could be can be because of stress. It could be can be because of stress. It could be because of burnout. It's because you're because of burnout. It's because you're because of burnout. It's because you're under these artificial lights all day. under these artificial lights all day. under these artificial lights all day. That can definitely play a significant That can definitely play a significant That can definitely play a significant role in the lack of melatonin. But then role in the lack of melatonin. But then role in the lack of melatonin. But then at the same time your melatonin being at the same time your melatonin being at the same time your melatonin being produced uh so actually I should take produced uh so actually I should take produced uh so actually I should take this a step back because your melatonin this a step back because your melatonin this a step back because your melatonin is produced in your pineal gland but is produced in your pineal gland but is produced in your pineal gland but your serotonin actually converts into your serotonin actually converts into your serotonin actually converts into your melatonin. So having lack of your melatonin. So having lack of your melatonin. So having lack of serotonin especially because you have a serotonin especially because you have a serotonin especially because you have a lot of gastrointestinal issues can be a lot of gastrointestinal issues can be a lot of gastrointestinal issues can be a huge part of why you don't have adequate huge part of why you don't have adequate huge part of why you don't have adequate amounts of melatonin. Secondary to that amounts of melatonin. Secondary to that amounts of melatonin. Secondary to that is that if your pineal gland is is that if your pineal gland is is that if your pineal gland is extremely stressed because of toxicity, extremely stressed because of toxicity, extremely stressed because of toxicity, which we're going to elaborate on, that which we're going to elaborate on, that which we're going to elaborate on, that can also play a role in your melatonin can also play a role in your melatonin can also play a role in your melatonin production. So, a lot of people don't production. So, a lot of people don't production. So, a lot of people don't always know that serotonin converts into always know that serotonin converts into always know that serotonin converts into melatonin, but that's one of the reasons melatonin, but that's one of the reasons melatonin, but that's one of the reasons why uh the supplement 5HTP is geared why uh the supplement 5HTP is geared why uh the supplement 5HTP is geared towards sleep problems because 5HTP towards sleep problems because 5HTP towards sleep problems because 5HTP converts into serotonin and then that is converts into serotonin and then that is converts into serotonin and then that is hopefully going to convert into hopefully going to convert into hopefully going to convert into melatonin. So, with that being said is a melatonin. So, with that being said is a melatonin. So, with that being said is a huge portion of your serotonin is huge portion of your serotonin is huge portion of your serotonin is actually made in your gastrointestinal actually made in your gastrointestinal actually made in your gastrointestinal system. So an unmanaged gut issue can system. So an unmanaged gut issue can system. So an unmanaged gut issue can very much be an unmanaged brain issue very much be an unmanaged brain issue very much be an unmanaged brain issue and sleep issue. So that 100% needs to and sleep issue. So that 100% needs to and sleep issue. So that 100% needs to be evaluated. But if you have a sleep be evaluated. But if you have a sleep be evaluated. But if you have a sleep problem, uh a lot of times you're going problem, uh a lot of times you're going problem, uh a lot of times you're going to a neurologist. If you have a gut to a neurologist. If you have a gut to a neurologist. If you have a gut problem, you're going to a problem, you're going to a problem, you're going to a gastroenterenterologist. And nobody is gastroenterenterologist. And nobody is gastroenterenterologist. And nobody is talking to each other or necessarily talking to each other or necessarily talking to each other or necessarily piecing the puzzle together. And that piecing the puzzle together. And that piecing the puzzle together. And that and sometimes they're they're both a and sometimes they're they're both a and sometimes they're they're both a problem, you know? problem, you know? problem, you know? Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So it's like you'll fix one and like, So it's like you'll fix one and like, So it's like you'll fix one and like, oh, I still didn't get better. blah blah oh, I still didn't get better. blah blah oh, I still didn't get better. blah blah blah and then you give up. But it's like blah and then you give up. But it's like blah and then you give up. But it's like well I think it's unfortunate how many well I think it's unfortunate how many well I think it's unfortunate how many people are on sleeping pills as well as people are on sleeping pills as well as people are on sleeping pills as well as on anti-depressants when it really is it on anti-depressants when it really is it on anti-depressants when it really is it is an unmanaged gut issue. is an unmanaged gut issue. is an unmanaged gut issue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes you know you So sometimes you know you So sometimes you know you I say both because pretty much I say both because pretty much I say both because pretty much everybody's pineal glands not doing everybody's pineal glands not doing everybody's pineal glands not doing well. well. well. Well and that's that's the next point is Well and that's that's the next point is Well and that's that's the next point is you know what is going to affect the you know what is going to affect the you know what is going to affect the pineal gland which again is part of the pineal gland which again is part of the pineal gland which again is part of the brain. what would potentially be causing brain. what would potentially be causing brain. what would potentially be causing um the limitation with how melatonin is um the limitation with how melatonin is um the limitation with how melatonin is being produced. And there is a lot of being produced. And there is a lot of being produced. And there is a lot of components that can uh create stress on components that can uh create stress on components that can uh create stress on the pineal gland. And that goes back to the pineal gland. And that goes back to the pineal gland. And that goes back to almost the last podcast that we did is almost the last podcast that we did is almost the last podcast that we did is you know is your pineal g pineal gland you know is your pineal g pineal gland you know is your pineal g pineal gland getting proper um oxygenation because of getting proper um oxygenation because of getting proper um oxygenation because of blood flow. You know so many people that blood flow. You know so many people that blood flow. You know so many people that are struggling with headaches and are struggling with headaches and are struggling with headaches and migraines it's because they have migraines it's because they have migraines it's because they have abnormal blood flow in and out of their abnormal blood flow in and out of their abnormal blood flow in and out of their head. So that can definitely cause a head. So that can definitely cause a head. So that can definitely cause a problem with how much oxygen the pineal problem with how much oxygen the pineal problem with how much oxygen the pineal gland is getting, which can be a problem gland is getting, which can be a problem gland is getting, which can be a problem for your melatonin. But if you want to for your melatonin. But if you want to for your melatonin. But if you want to talk about a stress from a toxicity, one talk about a stress from a toxicity, one talk about a stress from a toxicity, one of the biggest known stressors is of the biggest known stressors is of the biggest known stressors is actually fluoride um as being negatively actually fluoride um as being negatively actually fluoride um as being negatively impacting the pineal gland. impacting the pineal gland. impacting the pineal gland. It will actually calcify uh the pineal It will actually calcify uh the pineal It will actually calcify uh the pineal gland. gland. gland. Yeah. So calcify means, you know, Yeah. So calcify means, you know, Yeah. So calcify means, you know, calcium is being laid down and it's calcium is being laid down and it's calcium is being laid down and it's actually becoming, you know, hard. actually becoming, you know, hard. actually becoming, you know, hard. Yep. Um, so when you're thinking about Yep. Um, so when you're thinking about Yep. Um, so when you're thinking about fluoride, I think a lot of people know fluoride, I think a lot of people know fluoride, I think a lot of people know fluoride is in the water. And if fluoride is in the water. And if fluoride is in the water. And if anything, it's advocated for it to be in anything, it's advocated for it to be in anything, it's advocated for it to be in the water because it builds strong the water because it builds strong the water because it builds strong teeth. Um, teeth. Um, teeth. Um, which is a lie. which is a lie. which is a lie. If you if you look at all the research, If you if you look at all the research, If you if you look at all the research, there is some science showing that there is some science showing that there is some science showing that topically uh there's some benefits. topically uh there's some benefits. topically uh there's some benefits. There's also a lot of science showing There's also a lot of science showing There's also a lot of science showing that topically there is no benefits. Um, that topically there is no benefits. Um, that topically there is no benefits. Um, but pretty much all of the science says but pretty much all of the science says but pretty much all of the science says that there is no benefits um taking it that there is no benefits um taking it that there is no benefits um taking it uh orally. uh orally. uh orally. Orally. Yeah. And there's a lot of all Orally. Yeah. And there's a lot of all Orally. Yeah. And there's a lot of all the science pretty much says that it's the science pretty much says that it's the science pretty much says that it's it's a neurotoxin. So if you take it it's a neurotoxin. So if you take it it's a neurotoxin. So if you take it orally, uh it's going to get into your orally, uh it's going to get into your orally, uh it's going to get into your nervous system. And the unfortunately nervous system. And the unfortunately nervous system. And the unfortunately it's your pineal gland has the the big it's your pineal gland has the the big it's your pineal gland has the the big biggest magnet uh for fluoride. biggest magnet uh for fluoride. biggest magnet uh for fluoride. Well, and two, it's like with the amount Well, and two, it's like with the amount Well, and two, it's like with the amount of fluoride we're all exposed to, it's of fluoride we're all exposed to, it's of fluoride we're all exposed to, it's it's more than we would ever need for it's more than we would ever need for it's more than we would ever need for strong teeth. And um I said this in the strong teeth. And um I said this in the strong teeth. And um I said this in the last podcast as well, but one of the last podcast as well, but one of the last podcast as well, but one of the things that I literally learned 3 weeks things that I literally learned 3 weeks things that I literally learned 3 weeks ago is that all of the white dental ago is that all of the white dental ago is that all of the white dental fillings that go into cavities, uh I fillings that go into cavities, uh I fillings that go into cavities, uh I wouldn't say all, but if you were going wouldn't say all, but if you were going wouldn't say all, but if you were going to a traditional dentist that is not to a traditional dentist that is not to a traditional dentist that is not classified as a holistic or biological classified as a holistic or biological classified as a holistic or biological dentist, uh those fillings are actually dentist, uh those fillings are actually dentist, uh those fillings are actually timereleasing fluoride throughout the timereleasing fluoride throughout the timereleasing fluoride throughout the amount of time they're in your mouth. So amount of time they're in your mouth. So amount of time they're in your mouth. So you're having a timereleased fluoride you're having a timereleased fluoride you're having a timereleased fluoride from your fillings. Then you're also from your fillings. Then you're also from your fillings. Then you're also getting your fluoride treatments with getting your fluoride treatments with getting your fluoride treatments with your cleanings. And then in addition to your cleanings. And then in addition to your cleanings. And then in addition to that, it's in the water. It's also in that, it's in the water. It's also in that, it's in the water. It's also in many vitamins um and other types of many vitamins um and other types of many vitamins um and other types of beverages like pelro as an example has beverages like pelro as an example has beverages like pelro as an example has fluoride in it. fluoride in it. fluoride in it. Well, some I mean there is a difference Well, some I mean there is a difference Well, some I mean there is a difference between not that there's it's structured between not that there's it's structured between not that there's it's structured differently. Um but there is natural differently. Um but there is natural differently. Um but there is natural fluoride and then there's synthetic fluoride and then there's synthetic fluoride and then there's synthetic man-made fluoride. man-made fluoride. man-made fluoride. Yes. Yes. Yes. And they they're both not the best for And they they're both not the best for And they they're both not the best for you, but definitely the synthetic is you, but definitely the synthetic is you, but definitely the synthetic is processed a lot stronger. processed a lot stronger. processed a lot stronger. Yeah. So the fluoride exposure is Yeah. So the fluoride exposure is Yeah. So the fluoride exposure is definitely we're all being exposed to it definitely we're all being exposed to it definitely we're all being exposed to it and if you have lived in an area where and if you have lived in an area where and if you have lived in an area where there is a high amount in the water or there is a high amount in the water or there is a high amount in the water or if you've been given um especially as a if you've been given um especially as a if you've been given um especially as a child if you actually grew up in an area child if you actually grew up in an area child if you actually grew up in an area they didn't have the florinated water they didn't have the florinated water they didn't have the florinated water then chances are you were given uh then chances are you were given uh then chances are you were given uh fluoride drops or you were giving uh fluoride drops or you were giving uh fluoride drops or you were giving uh given fluoridated uh vitamins. So that given fluoridated uh vitamins. So that given fluoridated uh vitamins. So that is actually even more potent than what is actually even more potent than what is actually even more potent than what is available in the water. So these are is available in the water. So these are is available in the water. So these are all things that play a very significant all things that play a very significant all things that play a very significant role in the melatonin production. So role in the melatonin production. So role in the melatonin production. So depending on what the issue is, you depending on what the issue is, you depending on what the issue is, you know, obviously you have to consider all know, obviously you have to consider all know, obviously you have to consider all of your environmental factors like Dr. of your environmental factors like Dr. of your environmental factors like Dr. Nick mentioned is, you know, are you Nick mentioned is, you know, are you Nick mentioned is, you know, are you going to bed with a device, you know, in going to bed with a device, you know, in going to bed with a device, you know, in front of your face, watching TV, etc. front of your face, watching TV, etc. front of your face, watching TV, etc. Are you constantly under artificial Are you constantly under artificial Are you constantly under artificial light? Do you even have artificial light light? Do you even have artificial light light? Do you even have artificial light in your bedroom? And then, you know, in your bedroom? And then, you know, in your bedroom? And then, you know, what's going on that could be affecting what's going on that could be affecting what's going on that could be affecting your neurological system? And what can your neurological system? And what can your neurological system? And what can you do to actually improve it? you do to actually improve it? you do to actually improve it? Do you want me to talk about that or Do you want me to talk about that or Do you want me to talk about that or you go for it, my friend? you go for it, my friend? you go for it, my friend? Well, I mean, honestly, when you look at Well, I mean, honestly, when you look at Well, I mean, honestly, when you look at the nervous system, uh, the brain, the nervous system, uh, the brain, the nervous system, uh, the brain, everything's processed through it. So, everything's processed through it. So, everything's processed through it. So, it's like, you know, are you are you it's like, you know, are you are you it's like, you know, are you are you walking around? Are you physical? You walking around? Are you physical? You walking around? Are you physical? You know, that's the best nutrient for your know, that's the best nutrient for your know, that's the best nutrient for your brain is, you know, movement. Uh, that's brain is, you know, movement. Uh, that's brain is, you know, movement. Uh, that's my favorite way to hack the brain my favorite way to hack the brain my favorite way to hack the brain neurologically is through specific body neurologically is through specific body neurologically is through specific body movements to activate different parts of movements to activate different parts of movements to activate different parts of the brain. Even different eye movements the brain. Even different eye movements the brain. Even different eye movements is going to activate different parts of is going to activate different parts of is going to activate different parts of the brain. So, I love uh I love moving. the brain. So, I love uh I love moving. the brain. So, I love uh I love moving. Uh moving is one of the best things you Uh moving is one of the best things you Uh moving is one of the best things you can do. Um then you're looking at the can do. Um then you're looking at the can do. Um then you're looking at the other things that we've talked about. other things that we've talked about. other things that we've talked about. You know, chemical that's going to You know, chemical that's going to You know, chemical that's going to stress the brain. Um emotional. Uh if stress the brain. Um emotional. Uh if stress the brain. Um emotional. Uh if you're a very highly emotional, highly you're a very highly emotional, highly you're a very highly emotional, highly reactional, highly judge judging person, reactional, highly judge judging person, reactional, highly judge judging person, that's going to create a lot of that's going to create a lot of that's going to create a lot of overstimulation throughout the lyic overstimulation throughout the lyic overstimulation throughout the lyic system. Uh which is literally the pineal system. Uh which is literally the pineal system. Uh which is literally the pineal glands right right in the middle of it glands right right in the middle of it glands right right in the middle of it all. Um it's pretty much Yeah. and dead all. Um it's pretty much Yeah. and dead all. Um it's pretty much Yeah. and dead smack in the middle because on both smack in the middle because on both smack in the middle because on both sides we won't go into anatomy right sides we won't go into anatomy right sides we won't go into anatomy right now, but um it's it's going to be now, but um it's it's going to be now, but um it's it's going to be affected by that. But it's also not just affected by that. But it's also not just affected by that. But it's also not just through the brain, but it's like all through the brain, but it's like all through the brain, but it's like all those emotions. You know, we talk about those emotions. You know, we talk about those emotions. You know, we talk about adrenal burnout. Uh and if you're just adrenal burnout. Uh and if you're just adrenal burnout. Uh and if you're just like on stress all the time, uh that like on stress all the time, uh that like on stress all the time, uh that will go through and increase the will go through and increase the will go through and increase the cortisol, which is going to lower your cortisol, which is going to lower your cortisol, which is going to lower your melatonin. So making sure that you have melatonin. So making sure that you have melatonin. So making sure that you have a balanced uh perception, balanced a balanced uh perception, balanced a balanced uh perception, balanced emotion, uh you're not too high, you're emotion, uh you're not too high, you're emotion, uh you're not too high, you're not too low, uh that you're just, you not too low, uh that you're just, you not too low, uh that you're just, you know, you're seeing, you're having a know, you're seeing, you're having a know, you're seeing, you're having a good conscious awareness of what's good conscious awareness of what's good conscious awareness of what's really happening around you. Uh and then really happening around you. Uh and then really happening around you. Uh and then energetically, you know, there's tons of energetically, you know, there's tons of energetically, you know, there's tons of meridians uh that go over the head and meridians uh that go over the head and meridians uh that go over the head and intervate different areas. And then when intervate different areas. And then when intervate different areas. And then when you look at even deeper uh the different you look at even deeper uh the different you look at even deeper uh the different chakras um so you have you know your chakras um so you have you know your chakras um so you have you know your sixth and seventh chakra that right sixth and seventh chakra that right sixth and seventh chakra that right there and your six is literally dead there and your six is literally dead there and your six is literally dead onto the pineal gland uh and then your onto the pineal gland uh and then your onto the pineal gland uh and then your seventh your crown going up. So it's seventh your crown going up. So it's seventh your crown going up. So it's like those are two major important areas like those are two major important areas like those are two major important areas energetically uh that you want to make energetically uh that you want to make energetically uh that you want to make sure it's like a lot of times you'll be sure it's like a lot of times you'll be sure it's like a lot of times you'll be doing all this neurological work u but doing all this neurological work u but doing all this neurological work u but then you'll plateau and what we've what then you'll plateau and what we've what then you'll plateau and what we've what I found uh working on people is a lot of I found uh working on people is a lot of I found uh working on people is a lot of times it's what they haven't been times it's what they haven't been times it's what they haven't been evaluated for and what they've never had evaluated for and what they've never had evaluated for and what they've never had any treatment for which is their any treatment for which is their any treatment for which is their energetic systems. And I think that energetic systems. And I think that energetic systems. And I think that that's a big thing is like some of you that's a big thing is like some of you that's a big thing is like some of you listening might be like, "Oh, that's listening might be like, "Oh, that's listening might be like, "Oh, that's super weird and woo woo." But um I've super weird and woo woo." But um I've super weird and woo woo." But um I've found, you know, for myself, I've always found, you know, for myself, I've always found, you know, for myself, I've always been super analytical and I was always been super analytical and I was always been super analytical and I was always about blood work and labs and I had my about blood work and labs and I had my about blood work and labs and I had my own personal experience with hitting a own personal experience with hitting a own personal experience with hitting a pla a major plateau and found out that a pla a major plateau and found out that a pla a major plateau and found out that a big part of my issue was energetic and big part of my issue was energetic and big part of my issue was energetic and emotional and um mine all stemmed from emotional and um mine all stemmed from emotional and um mine all stemmed from my liver. But when you're coming back to my liver. But when you're coming back to my liver. But when you're coming back to the pineal gland and the chakra the pineal gland and the chakra the pineal gland and the chakra associated with it, um I find that with associated with it, um I find that with associated with it, um I find that with a lot of my patients, um that can be a lot of my patients, um that can be a lot of my patients, um that can be blocked in the event uh cuz this is blocked in the event uh cuz this is blocked in the event uh cuz this is classified as your third eye is um what classified as your third eye is um what classified as your third eye is um what do they not want to see? And there's a do they not want to see? And there's a do they not want to see? And there's a lot of things that we go through in our lot of things that we go through in our lot of things that we go through in our lives. And if you are maybe in a bad lives. And if you are maybe in a bad lives. And if you are maybe in a bad relationship or you know that your relationship or you know that your relationship or you know that your spouse cheated on you or or certain spouse cheated on you or or certain spouse cheated on you or or certain things is you can almost things is you can almost things is you can almost you wake up every day and you hate going you wake up every day and you hate going you wake up every day and you hate going to work. to work. to work. Yeah. you can easily block that chakra Yeah. you can easily block that chakra Yeah. you can easily block that chakra because you're almost like, I just need because you're almost like, I just need because you're almost like, I just need to power through. I just need to keep to power through. I just need to keep to power through. I just need to keep going. You know, I just this is my going. You know, I just this is my going. You know, I just this is my reality right now. Like it's not time. I reality right now. Like it's not time. I reality right now. Like it's not time. I can't leave him or I can't do this or I can't leave him or I can't do this or I can't leave him or I can't do this or I can't leave the job. I need the can't leave the job. I need the can't leave the job. I need the security. security. security. And that's increased stress which goes And that's increased stress which goes And that's increased stress which goes down affects the adrenals which affects down affects the adrenals which affects down affects the adrenals which affects the cortisol. the cortisol. the cortisol. Yeah. So I think it's just that system Yeah. So I think it's just that system Yeah. So I think it's just that system is it's a system. there is energy is it's a system. there is energy is it's a system. there is energy channels in our body the same as there channels in our body the same as there channels in our body the same as there is blood flow and everything else. So is blood flow and everything else. So is blood flow and everything else. So it's very important that that is it's very important that that is it's very important that that is considered when considered when considered when it's been around just about 2,000 plus it's been around just about 2,000 plus it's been around just about 2,000 plus years. So I think it's years. So I think it's years. So I think it's well and even in this holistic medicine well and even in this holistic medicine well and even in this holistic medicine world all you know we talk about how uh world all you know we talk about how uh world all you know we talk about how uh traditional medicine and conventional traditional medicine and conventional traditional medicine and conventional medicine is so segregated you know your medicine is so segregated you know your medicine is so segregated you know your cardiologist gastroenterenterologist cardiologist gastroenterenterologist cardiologist gastroenterenterologist neurologists but the same thing is neurologists but the same thing is neurologists but the same thing is really happening in the world of really happening in the world of really happening in the world of holistic medicine as well you know you holistic medicine as well you know you holistic medicine as well you know you have your acupuncturist which is dealing have your acupuncturist which is dealing have your acupuncturist which is dealing with those energy systems and then you with those energy systems and then you with those energy systems and then you have your functional medicine doctors have your functional medicine doctors have your functional medicine doctors and then you have your massage and then you have your massage and then you have your massage therapists and your personal trainers therapists and your personal trainers therapists and your personal trainers and everything else. So we have just and everything else. So we have just and everything else. So we have just found that we hit plateaus, found that we hit plateaus, found that we hit plateaus, excuse me, with our patients over time excuse me, with our patients over time excuse me, with our patients over time and that's what kept us learning and and that's what kept us learning and and that's what kept us learning and putting everything under one roof putting everything under one roof putting everything under one roof essentially. So it's definitely been an essentially. So it's definitely been an essentially. So it's definitely been an amazing evolution to understand all of amazing evolution to understand all of amazing evolution to understand all of those pieces and be able to help people those pieces and be able to help people those pieces and be able to help people in a really significant way. Um, but one in a really significant way. Um, but one in a really significant way. Um, but one of the things I do want to say, like of the things I do want to say, like of the things I do want to say, like going back to the melatonin, is that going back to the melatonin, is that going back to the melatonin, is that many people take melatonin and there's many people take melatonin and there's many people take melatonin and there's some people that take it and they do some people that take it and they do some people that take it and they do well. They're like, "Oh, it helped me well. They're like, "Oh, it helped me well. They're like, "Oh, it helped me sleep. It's like the best thing ever." sleep. It's like the best thing ever." sleep. It's like the best thing ever." And then there's other people that take And then there's other people that take And then there's other people that take it and it makes them feel bad. It keeps it and it makes them feel bad. It keeps it and it makes them feel bad. It keeps them awake. It gives them bad dreams. them awake. It gives them bad dreams. them awake. It gives them bad dreams. So, would you like to elaborate further? So, would you like to elaborate further? So, would you like to elaborate further? I would love to. Um, I would love to. Um, I would love to. Um, I just start trying to figure out where I just start trying to figure out where I just start trying to figure out where where to start with that. I would say where to start with that. I would say where to start with that. I would say with starting if you take it and you with starting if you take it and you with starting if you take it and you have that negative reaction um you have have that negative reaction um you have have that negative reaction um you have two choices. You can a power through it two choices. You can a power through it two choices. You can a power through it um or don't because if you do have that um or don't because if you do have that um or don't because if you do have that it's because your brain's detoxing. So it's because your brain's detoxing. So it's because your brain's detoxing. So you're having a reaction to your brain you're having a reaction to your brain you're having a reaction to your brain actually going through that detox actually going through that detox actually going through that detox process. process. process. And really the reaction is that it's not And really the reaction is that it's not And really the reaction is that it's not detoxing properly. Um, and when it's not detoxing properly. Um, and when it's not detoxing properly. Um, and when it's not detoxing properly, that creates more detoxing properly, that creates more detoxing properly, that creates more inflammation and then you're going to inflammation and then you're going to inflammation and then you're going to have either really bad sleep, no no have either really bad sleep, no no have either really bad sleep, no no sleep, or some really crazy dreams. Uh, sleep, or some really crazy dreams. Uh, sleep, or some really crazy dreams. Uh, cuz it's messing with all that cuz it's messing with all that cuz it's messing with all that information. information. information. Well, like you said before, talk about Well, like you said before, talk about Well, like you said before, talk about balance. So, balance. So, balance. So, back in the day, um, I guess it's like back in the day, um, I guess it's like back in the day, um, I guess it's like almost 10 years ago now. uh when we almost 10 years ago now. uh when we almost 10 years ago now. uh when we first started practicing, which we first started practicing, which we first started practicing, which we obviously didn't know then, what we know obviously didn't know then, what we know obviously didn't know then, what we know now. Um do you remember how we would so now. Um do you remember how we would so now. Um do you remember how we would so we would drive home, but we had one car, we would drive home, but we had one car, we would drive home, but we had one car, so we drove together and we only drove so we drove together and we only drove so we drove together and we only drove maybe 15 minutes to get home and I would maybe 15 minutes to get home and I would maybe 15 minutes to get home and I would get into the car and pass out so hard get into the car and pass out so hard get into the car and pass out so hard that I would be dreaming and Nick would that I would be dreaming and Nick would that I would be dreaming and Nick would have to like shake me to wake me up. have to like shake me to wake me up. have to like shake me to wake me up. Sometimes I would mess with her and I Sometimes I would mess with her and I Sometimes I would mess with her and I would just like go in the house and would just like go in the house and would just like go in the house and leave her in the car. leave her in the car. leave her in the car. But I'm telling this story because I But I'm telling this story because I But I'm telling this story because I thought that was normal. Like I thought thought that was normal. Like I thought thought that was normal. Like I thought it was great. I was like, I'm a great it was great. I was like, I'm a great it was great. I was like, I'm a great sleeper. I could sleep anywhere. And sleeper. I could sleep anywhere. And sleeper. I could sleep anywhere. And then I ended up uh doing neurological then I ended up uh doing neurological then I ended up uh doing neurological testing and I did a neurotransmitter testing and I did a neurotransmitter testing and I did a neurotransmitter test which tested melatonin. And I test which tested melatonin. And I test which tested melatonin. And I remember my melatonin was through the remember my melatonin was through the remember my melatonin was through the roof. And I remember being confused roof. And I remember being confused roof. And I remember being confused about it. And I was like, "What is this? about it. And I was like, "What is this? about it. And I was like, "What is this? What does this mean? like this is really What does this mean? like this is really What does this mean? like this is really bizarre and I was like well clearly this bizarre and I was like well clearly this bizarre and I was like well clearly this is why I'm sleeping the way that I am is why I'm sleeping the way that I am is why I'm sleeping the way that I am and you know maybe having like a and you know maybe having like a and you know maybe having like a low-grade narcolepsy essentially and uh low-grade narcolepsy essentially and uh low-grade narcolepsy essentially and uh then later down the line you know then later down the line you know then later down the line you know learning so much about the neurological learning so much about the neurological learning so much about the neurological system what I realized is my body system what I realized is my body system what I realized is my body naturally was amping up my melatonin naturally was amping up my melatonin naturally was amping up my melatonin production in order to try to detox my production in order to try to detox my production in order to try to detox my neurological system and it was because neurological system and it was because neurological system and it was because other testing that I did actually other testing that I did actually other testing that I did actually revealed I had very very significant revealed I had very very significant revealed I had very very significant mercury toxicity. So that you know mercury toxicity. So that you know mercury toxicity. So that you know obviously it's very difficult to test is obviously it's very difficult to test is obviously it's very difficult to test is it actually in my brain or affecting my it actually in my brain or affecting my it actually in my brain or affecting my brain but it clearly was. So my body brain but it clearly was. So my body brain but it clearly was. So my body being smart, you know, intuitive being smart, you know, intuitive being smart, you know, intuitive intuitively was like, let's raise the intuitively was like, let's raise the intuitively was like, let's raise the melatonin to try to detox her melatonin to try to detox her melatonin to try to detox her neurological system, but then obviously neurological system, but then obviously neurological system, but then obviously was creating, you know, this side effect was creating, you know, this side effect was creating, you know, this side effect of being able to sleep anywhere and, you of being able to sleep anywhere and, you of being able to sleep anywhere and, you know, to kind of fall in that deep know, to kind of fall in that deep know, to kind of fall in that deep sleep, which I clearly thought was a sleep, which I clearly thought was a sleep, which I clearly thought was a great thing. And then when my body like great thing. And then when my body like great thing. And then when my body like started to get better and correct, I was started to get better and correct, I was started to get better and correct, I was like, "Oh, so I guess that wasn't really like, "Oh, so I guess that wasn't really like, "Oh, so I guess that wasn't really that normal." that normal." that normal." Not so much. Not so much. Not so much. Yeah. So, it's definitely interesting Yeah. So, it's definitely interesting Yeah. So, it's definitely interesting across the board of what it looks like across the board of what it looks like across the board of what it looks like when your brain is dealing with toxicity when your brain is dealing with toxicity when your brain is dealing with toxicity and how the melatonin can affect you. and how the melatonin can affect you. and how the melatonin can affect you. So, for Nick and I, um, we have actually So, for Nick and I, um, we have actually So, for Nick and I, um, we have actually embarked embarked embarked Can I talk some more about the orally Can I talk some more about the orally Can I talk some more about the orally first? first? first? Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, cool. So when you're taking it, so Okay, cool. So when you're taking it, so Okay, cool. So when you're taking it, so if you don't get a bad reaction and if you don't get a bad reaction and if you don't get a bad reaction and actually helps you sleep, uh a awesome actually helps you sleep, uh a awesome actually helps you sleep, uh a awesome uh it's going to help you sleep, but you uh it's going to help you sleep, but you uh it's going to help you sleep, but you don't want to be dependent on it because don't want to be dependent on it because don't want to be dependent on it because anytime you do take something for a long anytime you do take something for a long anytime you do take something for a long time, it weakens the actual structure in time, it weakens the actual structure in time, it weakens the actual structure in the system to do it itself. So melatonin the system to do it itself. So melatonin the system to do it itself. So melatonin is not something you want to do a long is not something you want to do a long is not something you want to do a long time at all. time at all. time at all. And what I've found clinically getting And what I've found clinically getting And what I've found clinically getting uh better results is actually almost uh better results is actually almost uh better results is actually almost like micro doing with it because you're like micro doing with it because you're like micro doing with it because you're really just you're giving the body a really just you're giving the body a really just you're giving the body a little taste and say, "Hey, here I am. little taste and say, "Hey, here I am. little taste and say, "Hey, here I am. Produce more." So it's actually you're Produce more." So it's actually you're Produce more." So it's actually you're giving the body a a good a little bit of giving the body a a good a little bit of giving the body a a good a little bit of support but also a little bit of a support but also a little bit of a support but also a little bit of a challenge to naturally produce more challenge to naturally produce more challenge to naturally produce more melatonin itself. melatonin itself. melatonin itself. Like wouldn't you say this micro doing Like wouldn't you say this micro doing Like wouldn't you say this micro doing concept though is better for a person concept though is better for a person concept though is better for a person who maybe they suffered with a pretty who maybe they suffered with a pretty who maybe they suffered with a pretty significant gastrointestinal issue which significant gastrointestinal issue which significant gastrointestinal issue which compromised their serotonin and maybe compromised their serotonin and maybe compromised their serotonin and maybe they've worked on their gut and now they've worked on their gut and now they've worked on their gut and now they're trying to correct their they're trying to correct their they're trying to correct their melatonin. The micro doing would be good melatonin. The micro doing would be good melatonin. The micro doing would be good if Yeah. if they've corrected it cuz I if Yeah. if they've corrected it cuz I if Yeah. if they've corrected it cuz I mean most honest to god most people that mean most honest to god most people that mean most honest to god most people that take it it's barely going to get to take it it's barely going to get to take it it's barely going to get to their brain because their stomach's not their brain because their stomach's not their brain because their stomach's not functioning properly. functioning properly. functioning properly. Yeah. Because when it comes to the the Yeah. Because when it comes to the the Yeah. Because when it comes to the the you know the other side of it if you're you know the other side of it if you're you know the other side of it if you're resonating with the symptoms of brain resonating with the symptoms of brain resonating with the symptoms of brain toxicity like that's kind of a toxicity like that's kind of a toxicity like that's kind of a completely different ballgame of of how completely different ballgame of of how completely different ballgame of of how to work with the system, to work with the system, to work with the system, right? And then I mean and then right? And then I mean and then right? And then I mean and then literally orderly is probably my least literally orderly is probably my least literally orderly is probably my least favorite way of taking melatonin favorite way of taking melatonin favorite way of taking melatonin anyways. Mhm. anyways. Mhm. anyways. Mhm. Um there's just a lot more uh Um there's just a lot more uh Um there's just a lot more uh intelligent ways to take it so it intelligent ways to take it so it intelligent ways to take it so it affects the body. Uh it's affects the body. Uh it's affects the body. Uh it's struggling for how much I want to say on struggling for how much I want to say on struggling for how much I want to say on the podcast cuz I don't want somebody the podcast cuz I don't want somebody the podcast cuz I don't want somebody just run out and like Google and just run out and like Google and just run out and like Google and purchase some things and then have some purchase some things and then have some purchase some things and then have some really bad side effects. Um but just really bad side effects. Um but just really bad side effects. Um but just looking at the science of the body. Uh looking at the science of the body. Uh looking at the science of the body. Uh the two best ways to actually take the two best ways to actually take the two best ways to actually take melatonin is transdermal. So you're melatonin is transdermal. So you're melatonin is transdermal. So you're putting it on your skin, letting it soak putting it on your skin, letting it soak putting it on your skin, letting it soak in um or rectally. Uh so doing as a in um or rectally. Uh so doing as a in um or rectally. Uh so doing as a suppository. So, I would unless you've suppository. So, I would unless you've suppository. So, I would unless you've done your due diligence and you've done done your due diligence and you've done done your due diligence and you've done a lot of work and you're working with a lot of work and you're working with a lot of work and you're working with somebody that knows what they're doing, somebody that knows what they're doing, somebody that knows what they're doing, absolutely do not do a suppository uh absolutely do not do a suppository uh absolutely do not do a suppository uh cuz that's really strong and really cuz that's really strong and really cuz that's really strong and really powerful uh because it goes in and it powerful uh because it goes in and it powerful uh because it goes in and it goes right to your there like doesn't goes right to your there like doesn't goes right to your there like doesn't have to go through the stomach, doesn't have to go through the stomach, doesn't have to go through the stomach, doesn't have to be digested. It's going to go have to be digested. It's going to go have to be digested. It's going to go right in your bloodstream right in your bloodstream right in your bloodstream and that's really strong and it can and that's really strong and it can and that's really strong and it can create a lot of problems if you're not create a lot of problems if you're not create a lot of problems if you're not doing all the other um detoxing benefits doing all the other um detoxing benefits doing all the other um detoxing benefits with it. uh you literally have to with it. uh you literally have to with it. uh you literally have to support every system or you're not going support every system or you're not going support every system or you're not going to be a happy camper. to be a happy camper. to be a happy camper. Well, that was the conversation that we Well, that was the conversation that we Well, that was the conversation that we had as we've gone through our own had as we've gone through our own had as we've gone through our own personal melatonin detox and uh we said, personal melatonin detox and uh we said, personal melatonin detox and uh we said, you know, we had some definitely some you know, we had some definitely some you know, we had some definitely some side effects, but you know, we said we side effects, but you know, we said we side effects, but you know, we said we really can't recommend this to people really can't recommend this to people really can't recommend this to people that have not done any type of work on that have not done any type of work on that have not done any type of work on themselves in the past because themselves in the past because themselves in the past because it's not where you want to start. it's not where you want to start. it's not where you want to start. Yeah. We've been on a health journey for Yeah. We've been on a health journey for Yeah. We've been on a health journey for you know 8 n years now and you know we you know 8 n years now and you know we you know 8 n years now and you know we still had to be really really strategic still had to be really really strategic still had to be really really strategic for ourselves because when we started for ourselves because when we started for ourselves because when we started with the trans ddermal highdose with the trans ddermal highdose with the trans ddermal highdose melatonin and that created um some melatonin and that created um some melatonin and that created um some really interesting symptoms uh it was really interesting symptoms uh it was really interesting symptoms uh it was almost like an emotional detox uh for almost like an emotional detox uh for almost like an emotional detox uh for myself at least. But um the first time myself at least. But um the first time myself at least. But um the first time that I did the um the melatonin that I did the um the melatonin that I did the um the melatonin suppository, you if you remember, I suppository, you if you remember, I suppository, you if you remember, I didn't sleep for and I didn't I don't didn't sleep for and I didn't I don't didn't sleep for and I didn't I don't even think I sleep slept at all that even think I sleep slept at all that even think I sleep slept at all that night. I felt like I drank 75 cups of night. I felt like I drank 75 cups of night. I felt like I drank 75 cups of coffee. And um it was like a serious coffee. And um it was like a serious coffee. And um it was like a serious general nervous system detox. And then general nervous system detox. And then general nervous system detox. And then Nick just looks at me and he's like, Nick just looks at me and he's like, Nick just looks at me and he's like, "Your nervous system sucks." "Your nervous system sucks." "Your nervous system sucks." I'm like, "Thank you. Thank you for I'm like, "Thank you. Thank you for I'm like, "Thank you. Thank you for that." So, so considering how much you that." So, so considering how much you that." So, so considering how much you know work I've done on myself, infrared know work I've done on myself, infrared know work I've done on myself, infrared saunas, foot pads, you know, saunas, foot pads, you know, saunas, foot pads, you know, supplements, detoxes, etc., you know, supplements, detoxes, etc., you know, supplements, detoxes, etc., you know, this was still um, you know, creating this was still um, you know, creating this was still um, you know, creating definitely some some side effects in my definitely some some side effects in my definitely some some side effects in my system. You know, obviously there the system. You know, obviously there the system. You know, obviously there the benefits are huge once you get past the, benefits are huge once you get past the, benefits are huge once you get past the, you know, the difficult part, but um, you know, the difficult part, but um, you know, the difficult part, but um, you know, the point of this podcast is you know, the point of this podcast is you know, the point of this podcast is to have you guys really understand like to have you guys really understand like to have you guys really understand like if you have been a person struggling if you have been a person struggling if you have been a person struggling with your sleep and you've, you know, with your sleep and you've, you know, with your sleep and you've, you know, been struggling with burnout and you've been struggling with burnout and you've been struggling with burnout and you've really, you started to take melatonin, really, you started to take melatonin, really, you started to take melatonin, now it stopped working and you've been now it stopped working and you've been now it stopped working and you've been on ambient and you've been on, you know, on ambient and you've been on, you know, on ambient and you've been on, you know, all of these different protocols to all of these different protocols to all of these different protocols to correct your sleep. Like this is correct your sleep. Like this is correct your sleep. Like this is something to bring to your awareness something to bring to your awareness something to bring to your awareness that you could be dealing with a massive that you could be dealing with a massive that you could be dealing with a massive melatonin issue because of toxicity in melatonin issue because of toxicity in melatonin issue because of toxicity in the brain. And there are amazing the brain. And there are amazing the brain. And there are amazing protocols out there, but you definitely protocols out there, but you definitely protocols out there, but you definitely need to work with a physician in order need to work with a physician in order need to work with a physician in order to make sure you're doing it correctly. to make sure you're doing it correctly. to make sure you're doing it correctly. Because when we're talking about Because when we're talking about Because when we're talking about highdose melatonin, you know, melatonin highdose melatonin, you know, melatonin highdose melatonin, you know, melatonin when people take it orally is a when people take it orally is a when people take it orally is a milligram, two milligrams, like three at milligram, two milligrams, like three at milligram, two milligrams, like three at at max. we're talking 200 to 400 at max. we're talking 200 to 400 at max. we're talking 200 to 400 milligrams. Like it is a completely milligrams. Like it is a completely milligrams. Like it is a completely different ballgame when we're we're different ballgame when we're we're different ballgame when we're we're doing that level. So um so this is doing that level. So um so this is doing that level. So um so this is definitely something that has extreme definitely something that has extreme definitely something that has extreme benefit, but you might need to support benefit, but you might need to support benefit, but you might need to support your gut going through the process. You your gut going through the process. You your gut going through the process. You might need to do lymphatic detox going might need to do lymphatic detox going might need to do lymphatic detox going through the process. You might need to through the process. You might need to through the process. You might need to be taking other supplements that are be taking other supplements that are be taking other supplements that are complementing the the detox. There's a complementing the the detox. There's a complementing the the detox. There's a lot of strategy that goes into it. lot of strategy that goes into it. lot of strategy that goes into it. Yes, lots of strategy. Yes, lots of strategy. Yes, lots of strategy. So, for those of you that are really So, for those of you that are really So, for those of you that are really resonating with this podcast and are resonating with this podcast and are resonating with this podcast and are you're like, "Wow, this really sounds you're like, "Wow, this really sounds you're like, "Wow, this really sounds like me and I've been struggling with my like me and I've been struggling with my like me and I've been struggling with my sleep for a really long time and I sleep for a really long time and I sleep for a really long time and I really feel like I'm scared for my really feel like I'm scared for my really feel like I'm scared for my neurological system and you know, I do neurological system and you know, I do neurological system and you know, I do feel very foggy, especially you know, feel very foggy, especially you know, feel very foggy, especially you know, being young and I'm nervous about having being young and I'm nervous about having being young and I'm nervous about having more significant neurological decline." more significant neurological decline." more significant neurological decline." you know, hop on a strategy call with you know, hop on a strategy call with you know, hop on a strategy call with our client care team and learn a little our client care team and learn a little our client care team and learn a little bit more about the testing that we do. bit more about the testing that we do. bit more about the testing that we do. Um, because we always do testing to Um, because we always do testing to Um, because we always do testing to dictate, are you even a candidate for dictate, are you even a candidate for dictate, are you even a candidate for the melatonin detox? Because, you know, the melatonin detox? Because, you know, the melatonin detox? Because, you know, everybody starts somewhere and you might everybody starts somewhere and you might everybody starts somewhere and you might not be a candidate for it right away. not be a candidate for it right away. not be a candidate for it right away. Um, but you might be have be able to do Um, but you might be have be able to do Um, but you might be have be able to do other preliminary things to start other preliminary things to start other preliminary things to start correcting these pathways as well. correcting these pathways as well. correcting these pathways as well. And it's not just it I mean we both seen And it's not just it I mean we both seen And it's not just it I mean we both seen awesome results with it and the more awesome results with it and the more awesome results with it and the more severe aspect of neurological disorders severe aspect of neurological disorders severe aspect of neurological disorders too, you know, because sometimes you got too, you know, because sometimes you got too, you know, because sometimes you got to bring out the big guns for those to to bring out the big guns for those to to bring out the big guns for those to really cross that threshold uh to be really cross that threshold uh to be really cross that threshold uh to be able to kind of get them back in, you able to kind of get them back in, you able to kind of get them back in, you know, the game. Uh needless to say, so know, the game. Uh needless to say, so know, the game. Uh needless to say, so it can be utilized in so many different it can be utilized in so many different it can be utilized in so many different ways when done correctly. ways when done correctly. ways when done correctly. 100%. Well, we thank you guys for being 100%. Well, we thank you guys for being 100%. 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