DNA Testing vs. Genetic Testing
The average person spends
,500 on lab tests annually, yet 80% still don't understand their results. This episode reveals how Integrative You's DNA Precision testing can uncover root causes of health issues without a single blood draw, offering a revolutionary, accessible, and affordable path to understanding your body beyond traditional genetic testing.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 The Power of AI in Integrative Health
03:04 Distinguishing DNA Precision from Genetic Testing
05:45 Why Traditional Labs Often Fall Short
09:00 The Physics Behind DNA Analysis
12:05 Understanding Your Unique Health Blueprint
14:53 Real-World Impact of DNA Precision
17:52 The Mind-Body Connection in Healing
20:44 Self-Awareness: Your Key to Health
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🔗 Foundation Program: https://integrativeyou.health/foundation
🔗 Website: https://integrativeyou.health
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Topics: health, testing, https, integrativeyou, precision, genetic, understand, foundation
Key takeaways from this episode
- :00 The Power of AI in Integrative Health
- :04 Distinguishing DNA Precision from Genetic Testing
- :45 Why Traditional Labs Often Fall Short
- :00 The Physics Behind DNA Analysis
- :05 Understanding Your Unique Health Blueprint
Pull quotes
So we are in the era of our new AI intellectual property combo platform that we've created.
So essentially, for those of you that are new here, we took about 15 years of all of our experience and intellectual property that we have built.
And instead of trying to download it onto humans, which we did for many, many years and didn't necessarily work out that great, we downloaded it into our own personalized and customized AI platform.
Transcript
Dr. Nicole (00:00)
What is up, everyone? Welcome back to another episode of Integrative View Radio. So we are in the era of our new AI intellectual property combo platform that we've created. So essentially, for those of you that are new here, we took about 15 years of all of our experience and intellectual property that we have built.
And instead of trying to download it onto humans, which we did for many, many years and didn't necessarily work out that great, we downloaded it into our own personalized and customized AI platform. So 90 % of it is us and our brain and the 10 % is AI just making us sound cooler and formatting it because we have bad grammar.
Dr. Nick (00:52)
Do when it's saying.
into a story that people can understand and not Dr. Nick's crazy brain and physics and balance and equanimity.
Dr. Nicole (00:58)
but.
Literally, literally, my
God, like bring it down, bring it down.
Dr. Nick (01:09)
He he he.
Dr. Nicole (01:10)
So one of the things that was actually really interesting in the development of our new website was even, because we're using an AI platform to help us develop the site, and they kept getting confused when we were talking about DNA, like DNA testing, because one of our products is DNA Precision, which is like very, very, very hyper-specific. And this is honestly something that's been completely reserved for our one-to-one private concierge clients. But we're like,
if we really want to help people, we want to bring this to more people, more families. And it kept like creating these FAQs with 23andMe and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, stop it. It is not what we do. So I was like, okay, it's really worth it for us to get on a podcast and help people to really understand the difference. Cause there's a huge difference. Number one,
And number two, I think if you understand what it is and what it does, you're gonna be like, holy shit, that's really fucking cool. But I wanna lead with, yeah. One of the things I wanna lead with though, is our new programs, we have our foundation program, which is really someone looking to understand more what's going on with the foundation of their health, of their body and their mind.
Dr. Nick (02:19)
to talk about physics.
Dr. Nicole (02:36)
and get foundational solutions. And then we have our DNA precision, which is more advanced. And you're going to really understand root causes that are not only driven by our entire proprietary process, but it's also based on your DNA. And we're not doing labs. We're not doing blood work. We're not doing urine testing. We're not doing any of that. That's going to be, it's still things that we do and we value, but it's reserved for our private concierge because, because obviously,
There's a lot of logistics to it. But what I want to say is that one of the reasons why we created these products is for accessibility and affordability. But third is because there are way too many fucking people that are getting labs done and they still have no idea what's going on. They have no idea why they feel like shit. They have no idea why they feel anxious. They have no idea what to do.
So this is bridging the gap.
Dr. Nick (03:33)
And if you listen to
our previous podcast, we don't trust anything. Nothing is 100 % correct. So the more data you can collect, the least you have to be reliant on one format of information. So you can actually get like a deeper blend. We'll get into the physics of how this quote unquote DNA works.
Dr. Nicole (03:53)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (04:03)
I'll kind of, you know, put the whole circle together there, but it's a, it's pretty the information you can get from DNA, the way we do it literally just with everything else is mind blowing of the results you can get.
Dr. Nicole (04:18)
Yeah, but
backpedaling because people think DNA genetics, genes, know, hence the literally we're building the website and I kept talking about 23andMe. So let's be very clear. When you're doing genetic testing like 23andMe or Ancestry, this is looking for different what they call snips or genetic patterns. And it's essentially telling you if you're fucking doomed or not.
It's like, well, you have the gene that's going to create a higher probability for cancer. You have a gene that's going to make you really sick if you ever come in contact with mold. You have a gene that is going to fuck up your hormones. I understand that the information is valuable, but it's not how it works. Because there is a thing called epigenetics.
which essentially tells us that your genes will express differently based off of environment. So someone who generally has a clear mind, they, I don't want to say they're positive because that has its caveats, but you know, they're not living in a place of fuck them, I hate them and judge them and like jealous and desire and anger and rage. You know, they're a pretty like even keeled person. Everyone's got their baggage.
And they tend to live a life where maybe they're not overly stressed, they're not killing themselves and burning the candle at both ends. And they try to eat a bit healthy, they exercise. You're creating a healthier environment for your mind and your body. That is actually going to radically change your probability of getting sick, getting cancer.
getting depression despite what your 23andMe said.
Dr. Nick (06:20)
Yeah. I mean, the easy way to think about it is somebody that's a growth mindset. Even if they receive bad news, they're going to be like, okay, well, you know, ha, you know, a is this accurate? You know, let's get more data, more information to see if it's all coherent information or if it's actually conflicting each other, you know, that that's, would be an intelligent first step. Let's, let's gather more data. And then from that data, it's like, based on what comes back, it's like, okay, well, now I have this.
Dr. Nicole (06:27)
How do I use it?
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (06:50)
How can I best use that to serve myself? Because what I've done in the past brought me to this point. Now let's figure out if I want a different scenario moving forward and what those goals are, what's needed to change my state of being that allows me to be in alignment to achieve these goals. That would be a growth mindset. A fixed mindset is, my God.
Dr. Nicole (06:52)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, 100%.
Dr. Nick (07:14)
This is me now. This is who I am. I am, I, I am this.
Dr. Nicole (07:17)
Hey, listen, I'm gonna preface. There's no guilt and shame because
I had about 17 fucking meltdowns in the process of creating all of this for you guys. And like, I have gray hairs. Like it has been a journey. I didn't stay there. See, that is the point. Too long.
Dr. Nick (07:31)
Yes, and but but you didn't stay there. Too long, too long,
too long. There might have been one. There might have been one 48 hour period where I was like kids, let's go kids. We're going outside. Let's go come on.
Dr. Nicole (07:40)
Maybe like middle of the day, was like, give me a gin drink, I'm gonna lose my shit.
Yeah, seriously. my gosh. So one of the things that I kept feeding to build our website out was DNA. This is what we are looking at. One, you have DNA in your hair, you have DNA in your fingernails. So what's cool is that it's a very easy way for us to get that sample from people because we process this in-house. This is not being processed externally.
The other important thing is we're not processing your hair for heavy metals and mineral deficiencies. That was the other thing that kept coming up was like, you're a mineral.
Dr. Nick (08:26)
It's
not a medical processing system.
Dr. Nicole (08:30)
Yes, it's our proprietary system and we use a technology for it. But what we're looking at is so I'm going to use a quick example before I dive in. I always tell people because they're like, how does this work? This is crazy. Trust me, we've been in practice for a long time. We've heard it a million times. And I'm like, OK, if you go to the grocery store and they scan the barcode on your toothpaste, it's going to pop up as toothpaste. But if the barcode change,
two digits, one digit, you could scan it and it could come up as broccoli. Completely different. So when you think of genetic or DNA code, the code can shift under stress. So when we are looking at the DNA from the hair or the nail sample, we are looking for just minor alterations in the DNA code that are representative of stress.
And that stress could be inflammation. It could be blocked detox pathways. It could be a variety of things. The other really fascinating thing is we're looking for foreign DNA, which is, do you have parasites in your body? Do you have viruses in your system? Do you have bacteria in your system? Because they have their own set of DNA. And so when we're looking at this, we're looking at
what organ systems are truly stressed and what are they stressed by? Are they stressed by toxic load? Are they stressed because there are physical blockages? If it's stones or gunk or calcium, scar tissue? Or is it because there are certain pathogens that are there? And
Dr. Nick (10:23)
How do you
know that what it's being stressed by?
Dr. Nicole (10:27)
What do you mean?
Dr. Nick (10:31)
Like, how can you tell that it's a parasite versus it's a heavy metal that's stressing?
Dr. Nicole (10:39)
because of the
code changes. So it's either showcasing that it's, are you messing with me? It's either showcasing that it is inflammatory stress due to, this is actually fascinating, due to a pathogen, due to toxic load. It could also be due to emotional burden.
You want to go into the physics and the science, don't you? Go ahead.
Dr. Nick (11:07)
No, I'm, I'm, I'm great. Now it's, it's just pretty amazing to, you know, I always, I share it. Not as simple as Dr. Nicole, because I like to talk about energy, but it's just like everything has a specific vibration to it. And the story I like to say is, know, you.
I don't know if you heard, but you can go on YouTube and whatever video site and type in opera singer shattering a crystal glass. And that's because that vibration is what we call resonance. that everything that's vibrating is vibrating at a specific resonance. And when you match that resonance, it actually shatters the vibration. It collapses the vibration. It collapses the wavelength.
So there's actually no more wavelength. So when you have an opera singer that matches the resonance of a specific crystal glass, the glass shatters because there's actually no more vibration in the glass, which is crazy. So the technology that we have goes through and just scans all these different possibilities until it's like, I picked up this resonance, which is connected with
Dr. Nicole (12:17)
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (12:34)
this crystal glass or this toxicity or this vibration of grief or this vibration of fear, etc. And then it compiles and sees like, OK, you can actually see based on the magnitude of that resonance, how much it's actually affecting the tissue of the liver, let's say. So then you could say, wow, like this heavy metal has a really high magnitude that's affecting
Dr. Nicole (12:43)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (13:04)
deliver resonance. Well, that's awesome. Like that just gave us crazy specific information without having to actually do any medical testing. And then we'll go through and we'll compound that of, okay, this is one aspect information. Now, now let's look at, you know, let's look at your stools. Let's look at your different detox pathways. Let's look at, you know, brain fog, look, look at pain points in the shoulder and
Dr. Nicole (13:31)
But in all transparency, when we first got introduced to this technology and this concept, we didn't have high expectations. just like, yeah, OK. If it could be valuable, great. Because what led us to investigating alternative testing data points was because we were seeing a lot of really, really scary inconsistencies in blood labs. And I told the story in the last, but it was we had
Dr. Nick (13:33)
Ahem.
Dr. Nicole (14:00)
blood work being ran twice for the same person, the same blood samples, and it was showing one was positive Lyme disease and the other was negative and the lab had no answers for us. That's the high level of it. So we essentially were like, we need more data points. And when we started looking at this, we said, okay, if this could provide some value, great. But we, you know, we're of course testing it on ourselves. And we're like, holy shit, like this is kind of wild. And then,
You know, you, of course, you have that skeptical mind. You're like, is it right? Like, I don't know. Because then there's some shit you see and you're like, am I fucking OK? And then we were we were using this technology for a decade in our practice, but we were always using with labs. So we would see something and then we would be like, let's test it in the labs and see if it comes up, because sometimes.
Dr. Nick (14:37)
Am I okay?
Dr. Nicole (14:53)
Like I remember tuberculosis came up for a client. Like I don't run tuberculosis on the average patient. Like that is not a common disease and it's also not even really thought to be common in the US. And I was like, I'm gonna test it. It was fucking positive. And I was just like, holy shit. Like this person had like seven autoimmune conditions, couldn't breathe and had fucking tuberculosis.
So like there were things like that that I was just like, it's always right. It's always right. So we have complete trust in it. Of course, we don't expect everyone else to because you haven't seen what we've seen, but we want people to also know that there are other really reliable and easy to access data points that are helpful because...
Dr. Nick (15:21)
Hehehehehe
Dr. Nicole (15:44)
One of the reasons why we created everything that we've created is because so many people are getting blood labs and urine testing and even advanced testing that is like, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know what's going on.
Dr. Nick (15:56)
And and it's crazy
and it's crazy expensive.
Dr. Nicole (15:59)
Yeah, well, yeah, that's the thing is like our DNA testing when you work with us privately, it's always just included. And we use it and even sometimes when people reach out when we're working with them privately, they say, I'm sick, like, can you can you can you scan my system and see what's going on? And we're like, Yep, sure, no problem. We're like, you got this going on in your sinuses and this this here, take this or do this. And it's really cool. So that actually brings us to the to the next point is that
once we have the sample, we're actually able to reuse that sample for future testing because... Yeah, we're gonna really fuck with people now. They're just like, get the fuck out of here, you people are crazy! I wouldn't be saying this with this much confidence if I haven't seen it work a million times. I've actually been called a witch doctor, which I take as a compliment, because...
Dr. Nick (16:37)
What?
Dr. Nicole (16:56)
people that, you they're like, I trust you. And a lot of people referred me. I don't know if I get it, but whatever. If you can help me, let's do it because no one has helped me. And they've had, you know, they come in for the reevaluation because we always do reevaluations at 90 days because your body changes. That's the whole point of you doing things is your body changes. And I'm running the test and I'm like, hey, is there something going on with your shoulder or hey, how has this been?
Have you been noticing, that your left side is a little blocked and they're like, what? And they're just like, who are you and what the fuck is going on? And I'm like, yeah, do you want me to explain it or like, are we in full trust mode? And you're just gonna let me roll with it and just like tell you what to do. And they're like, I don't even know if I can handle it, just tell me what to do.
So yeah, it's pretty interesting.
Dr. Nick (17:52)
So with the other 50 % that are like
curious, how do you explain that, know, three months ago, nine months ago, two years ago, you don't have to actually have a new hair sample to be able to see current results like that.
Dr. Nicole (18:11)
I'm
gonna let you answer that because you had a great example with your resonance thing, so.
High level, Nick, high level.
Dr. Nick (18:19)
Well...
The only constant is change. If for people that really want to understand in a layman way. Do I have the book here?
No, don't. There is a book that was written in the 70s that's called The Life of Plants. And long story short, they started doing these tests on plants to see if they had emotions or not. And they hook them up. You know, it was very rudimentary back then, 70s. And they hook them up to lie detector test just to see if they could get like impulses.
Dr. Nicole (18:45)
favorite book.
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (19:05)
Because
that's really what lie detector does is, know, anytime that your autonomic nervous system is like, I'm lie. It has a spike of energy. So they hooked these plants up with lie detector test and started doing things to them, you know, acting and beating them, setting them on fire, giving them love, giving them presence, you know, water, pouring toxins as if they're going to kill them.
Dr. Nicole (19:31)
I didn't read this book.
Dr. Nick (19:36)
and they got all these different types of, you know, jumps on the machine. And then one of the head scientist took it up another lot. She was giving a lecture halfway around the world and was like, I'm going, he created like a relationship with this one plant and he's like, I'm going to talk to this plant and. Mark out the exact times when I do it and then come back and see.
If that plant had a response at that exact moment or around that, and it was not even a second away, it was at the exact same moment that that scientist started to have a conversation or thinking about this plant.
Dr. Nicole (20:22)
But they were separated. Okay, yeah.
Dr. Nick (20:24)
half of the world away.
So that also proved that, you know, it was faster than light.
which is mind blowing to think about. Like, his thought traveled instantaneously.
Dr. Nicole (20:42)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (20:44)
Thoughts are the expression of the, what changes the epigenetics. Thoughts are the environment. So Einstein talk about the particle is dictated by the expression of the field, the intelligence. That's epigenetics proved is it's the, the quality of the information, the quality of our feeling around us actually dictates the expression of us because it's either giving us a eustress building this up or it's a distress breaking us down.
which is happening instantaneously. Like there's no space time. It's in the moment, which is still hard to believe. So anytime that you change, anytime that you change every single moment, all your DNA is changing. It doesn't matter if the DNA is inside you or outside of you because it's you and all your DNA is instantaneously communicating with your environment.
Dr. Nicole (21:28)
to entanglement.
Dr. Nick (21:46)
Which is primarily what? The mind, the thought, the belief, the perception. So as you take in information, this is not to get into it, but it's like when you take supplements and you work on the body, you're really just giving your mind support because energy flows first above down. He goes from the spirit to the mind, to the body.
Dr. Nicole (21:50)
Mm-hmm.
Well, it's also the intention of taking care of yourself. That's, I think, sometimes more powerful than the actual biochemical change from the supplement. It's the intention.
Dr. Nick (22:17)
Well, I mean, placebo effect is always,
is always more powerful than anything when you look at the science behind it. yeah. So, that's the, the layman terms is, how I could probably easiest describe it is it's, it's all just a transfer of thought. And just as long as your DNA is kept in an undamaged.
Dr. Nicole (22:26)
But yeah, intention is important.
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (22:47)
way and you have all the DNA the the DNA and the strand of the hair and DNA actual in the root as well You get all the information and you can collect all the information through that quote-unquote bio energetic fingerprint
Dr. Nicole (23:04)
So I'm gonna leave you guys just with a quick story and then we're gonna wrap it up. But it's actually funny because one of our close friends here in Italy, she kept talking about very specific symptoms that she had. And I told her, you know, it was just like very playful. And I was like, it's your gallbladder. And she's just like, what do you mean? There's nothing wrong with my gallbladder. no, it's not. And so, you know, it just like a playful dynamic.
It was just same thing. She would say something. I'm like, it's your fucking gallbladder. And of course she did labs, nothing going on liver, nothing going on gallbladder. And honestly, there's really not great blood labs for that anyway. Even ultrasounds, is, you know, looking visually at the gallbladder, it's not catching anything until the gallbladder has like massive blockages and stones. So gallbladder evaluation is going under the radar for a lot of people.
So then finally we did the DNA tests on her and I was like, it's your fucking gallbladder. And she's like, come on. She's like, really? And I was like, listen, okay, believe me or don't believe me. All you really need to do based on what I can see is you need to take soluble fiber and you need some bio salts. So I gave her two supplements that she actually ended up only taking the one, which was the fiber. I was like, take this at this dose.
it's gonna get your gallbladder moving. Because her primary thing was she thought she had like a rib fracture and she's like, I think I have a fracture. They did an x-ray, nothing. That was when she finally let me do the DNA test. was like, she was in so much pain. And they're like, there's nothing going on. Like musculoskeletally, there's nothing happening. And so she did the supplement. She cleaned up her diet a bit and all the pain went away.
And then what was even more interesting, which is a huge aspect that we bring to all of our new programs, Foundation DNA Precision, is the mental aspect. And so I gave her the very, very specific interpretation of when your gallbladder is blocked, what is the psychosomatic connection there? And she was just like, holy shit, that nailed it. So she was dealing with a physical issue.
that was connected to a very specific belief system and thought pattern from previous experiences. And so this pain she was having was an invitation to work on it and to resolve it and to release it. And so she had this beautiful combination of being able to understand the root cause of what was going on in her conscious and subconscious mind from past patterns. She was able to work on that.
and then she was able to actually do the physical work through this supplementation, which was literally just soluble fiber. And those two together, it was like a couple days, and the pain went away after being in pain for months. So it's really powerful.
Dr. Nick (26:12)
What's if, if people
don't know, why the supplement, one of the main supplements also is, digestive bitters because the emotional imbalance connected with gallbladder is bitterness. And so it's that is, you know, we, the, app that we've created, of course it has, you know, has an AI exercise coach. has, your, what'd you call it? Your AI.
Dr. Nicole (26:25)
Betterness.
Dr. Nick (26:42)
chef, like AI chef to help you like it's everything's insane but
Dr. Nicole (26:43)
yeah, A.I.
Okay, really quick though,
the app and what we're talking about, they're together, but they are separate entities. So essentially, you do foundation or your DNA precision, you get all of your customized reports, and it tells you exactly what to do, all of your solutions, and then your app is in your pocket, allowing you to bring all of your solutions and your self-g-
growth and your new supplement regimen, it all comes to life in the app, just to be clear.
Dr. Nick (27:21)
It's your 24 seven coach. It's like having us in your pocket, which is weird. Um, probably won't say that one again, but what I was trying to say is that going back to understanding, like the, thoughts, the epigenetics and everything, a big component of it is creating more of that. What Socrates talked about is know thyself, you know, you can't have inner peace until you know, thyself.
Dr. Nicole (27:26)
Pocket.
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (27:51)
And the body is really just giving us symptoms so that we can better know our belief patterns and our thought processing. And when we can get that awareness and use that awareness to make changes, to be more balanced, to change a belief, to be more empowering, that removes the bitterness in this circumstance, which took away the stress response, which allowed the actual splices in the DNA to change, which is why we can run another different scan.
and actually see changes within the gallbladder, which is pretty awesome.
Dr. Nicole (28:22)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, no, 100%. All right, guys, we hope this was super insightful. If you have questions, definitely leave them below and we'll be happy to answer them. But we hope you get to experience it for yourself.
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