Why Panic Attacks Might Be the Best Thing That’s Happened to You [Part 3]
Episode 280
In this episode, Dr. Nicole and Dr. Nick get radically honest about panic attacks, reframing them from something to fear into a powerful tool for release and healing. Through personal stories—including Nicole’s experience supporting her mom post-stroke and her own panic attack—they break down how panic and anxiety can be the body’s way of letting go of trapped energy, emotions, and old beliefs. The duo shares why embracing these moments (instead of medicating or resisting) can lead to profound growth, and how breathwork, vulnerability, and shifting your perception can turn a “panic attack” into an opportunity for transformation. #PanicAttackReframe #MindBodyHealing #BreathworkForAnxiety #EmotionalRelease #IntegrativeHealth #HealingJourney #SomaticHealing #HolisticWellness #DrNicoleRivera #IntegrativeYou #MentalHealthAwareness #Resilience #TransformationalHealing 3 Key Takeaways: Panic attacks aren’t mistakes—they’re your body’s way of releasing stuck energy, emotions, and old programs. When you lean in (not medicate or resist), you open the door to healing. Your breath is the bridge between mind and body. Breathwork can mimic the physiological release of a panic attack, helping you let go—if you’re willing to be vulnerable and actually feel it. Shifting your perception changes everything. What you label as “panic” might actually be your body’s wisdom, guiding you to let go and realign with joy, gratitude, and your higher self. Quotes: “It’s about shifting your perception of a panic attack. My body is doing exactly what it needs to do, and this is actually helping me to release something that no longer serves me.” “Your body is never making mistakes, man. Whether we call it a disease, a panic attack, or a seizure, your body is always doing its best to maintain balance.” Find Integrative You Radio On: Website Youtube Apple Spotify 2 Doctors Committed to Innovating the Healthcare Experience. Integrative You Radio is hosted by husband-and-wife duo, Dr. Nicole Rivera and
Topics: panic, body, attacks, integrative, unknown, healing, release, energy
Key takeaways from this episode
- ## Integrative You Radio: Why Panic Attacks Might Be the Best Thing That’s Happened to You [Part 3]
- Panic attacks are not errors, but rather the body's innate process for releasing pent-up energy, suppressed emotions, and outdated belief systems.
- Choosing to engage with panic instead of resisting or medicating it creates an opening for significant healing and transformation.
- The breath serves as a vital conduit connecting the mind and body, facilitating release and balance.
- Mindset shifts are powerful; perceiving a panic attack as a signal for release, rather than a threat, can fundamentally change the experience and outcomes.
Pull quotes
This is the place where you become limitless. **Unknown:** We are covering the latest and greatest topics, of course, in a disruptive fashion around integrative medicine, mental health, and human behavior.
We will be sprinkling in some truth bombs for our healthpreneurs so they can join us in our mission to evolve healthcare.
If you are health curious and growth focused, you are in the right place. **Unknown:** But buckle up because this is real, this is raw, and this is disruptive.
Transcript
**Unknown:** Welcome to Integrative U Radio hosted by Dr. Nick Carruthers and yours truly, Dr. Nicole Rivera. This is the place where you become limitless.
**Unknown:** We are covering the latest and greatest topics, of course, in a disruptive fashion around integrative medicine, mental health, and human behavior. We are also covering how those topics affect the human and family dynamics. We will be sprinkling in some truth bombs for our healthpreneurs so they can join us in our mission to evolve healthcare. If you are health curious and growth focused, you are in the right place.
**Unknown:** But buckle up because this is real, this is raw, and this is disruptive. This is Integrative U Radio. All right, guys, we're rolling into part three, and so I left you hanging on the last one, and we primarily are talking about the fact that- Freaking out, man. Freaking out, man.
**Unknown:** Freaking out. Um, my mom has had a significant... So for those of you just hopping into this one, my mom had a stroke, um, couple of weeks ago. She was admitted to hospital, then rehab, and there has been a slew of different, uh, things that have unfolded, so listen to the prior two podcasts if you want to get the whole scoop on how to be your own advocate or be an advocate for others inside of a hospital setting.
**Unknown:** And then also, you know, one of the best ways to get yourself out of fear, get yourself out of this desperation, "I need to save this person," and get yourself into a place of inspiration, which will actually create better outcomes for the individual. Those are the two podcasts that we, uh, recorded in this series. But one of the things that, um, they have been recommending is medication for her anxiety because she has been having some panic attacks, and my mom does have a history of this and she has been essentially medicating herself and, you know, getting rid of these panic attacks through medication. So, um- Right ...
**Unknown:** and, and alcohol, yes. And, um, I... The very interesting thing unfolded that we're going to talk about, and we're gonna actually lead with how panic attacks can actually be exactly what your body needs and can be very beneficial. So- What?
**Unknown:** What? Yeah. So I'm gonna say this because this is very out of character for me. You know, for those of you that have been listening to us for a really long time, maybe you've worked with us, you know that I've always been, like, the scientific, analytical brain of the, the duo here and, um- She's been the alpha, too.
**Unknown:** Ha. She wears the pants. I'm not even wearing pants right now. Yep, yep.
**Unknown:** Always and forever. Per sempre, as we say in Italian. And, uh, but over, you know, the, the past few years, having our son, um, moving to South Carolina, moving to Italy, I've been on my own journey to work through shit that was holding me back and become a better version of myself. So, you know, tapping more into the psychology, the somatic, the energetic, and, and being really vulnerable with myself of the past childhood programs that actually helped me become a suc- successful entrepreneur, but then 10 years in were actually holding me back.
**Unknown:** So I wanna preface with that so you have, like, a little bit of a background. So essentially, in this new version of myself, I'm a lot more intuitive. I'm a lot more sensitive to picking up on people, behaviors, energy, vibes, whatever the fuck you wanna call it. And my mom and I, obviously she made me.
**Unknown:** I... We're entangled in an energetic capacity. We're also, um, of the same DNA. Um, obviously I am a blend of my mom and dad's DNA.
**Unknown:** So in the event that this, she has had this stroke and been going through this journey, um, I've been feeling weird things in my body. So the stroke that she had created, it was the right side of the brain, created, uh, left-sided, uh, motor issues. Um, she still is having, uh, mobility issues in her left arm, but am- amazing enough, she has, um, mobility back after three weeks or so in her leg. But we were about two weeks in and I was, like, sitting here actually in this dr- very seat and I was like, "Oh my God," like, my...
**Unknown:** It was my left arm, and I was like, "My left arm literally feels heavy, like, like, numb." And I said to Nick, I go, "What the fuck?" And he's like, "Oh, look at you being so energetic and feeling your mom's stuff." He's like, "Welcome to my world." And I was like, "Yeah, I don't like this shit." So anyway, fast-forward, we went to Elba, uh, which is an island here in Italy, and we were enjoying a vacation. It was Ferragosto and the beaches were packed, and all the beach clubs were packed, and we're like, "Shit, we really didn't plan." I was feeling a little off that day, you know, just kinda really feeling, like, the heaviness of my mom's situation. Um, she wasn't cognitively great the day before when I talked to her. You know, just, so just feeling it.
**Unknown:** So we went and we're like, "All right, our only option is to maybe set up shop, uh, on these, these rocks," kinda like a jetty for those of you that, you know, live in the US. Uh, set up on there and, you know, we'll just kinda like hang out there because there's no spots on the beach.I've walked on rocks, jetties many times in my life, and for some reason I was really freaking out. I was, I was like, my threshold was very low. And, um, I had a lovely panic attack, and so I was like, "Okay.
**Unknown:** Yeah, so this is interesting." And, uh, I talked to my dad later in the day. Turns out my mom had a panic attack that day. And one was really acknowledging how intertwined family members can be, and this goes back to the first podcast in this series, is how you being... taking care of yourself in times like this where there's a health crisis in the family is your top priority.
**Unknown:** Because if you especially share DNA with the person who's going through the health crisis, you can actually help their outcomes by helping yourself, and you can help them by also being the, the most grounded version of yourself. So- Grant it just being, meaning being present ... being present, 100%. But we have, uh, our lovely friend Eric, uh, who lives in Jersey.
**Unknown:** I'll give him a shout-out, Eric Morris. He got into breathwork, uh, couple years now, I think, and last time we were in Jersey he was, like, so excited, and he came over to the house we were staying at, and he's like, "Can I do a breathwork session with you?" And we're like, "Hell yeah, let's do it." And essentially, he took us through, you know, this, this, uh, guided breathwork session, and the instructions were to breathe rapidly, to, like, breathe almost essentially the same exact way your breath changes when you have a panic attack. And so had that panic attack on the rocks, and I, I sat with it after. Well, first of all, I felt fucking radically better afterwards, and I was like, "Hmm, that's interesting." And then two, I sat with it and I was really thinking about it, and I was like, "Holy shit, panic attacks are actually your body's way, your mind, your body's way of releasing." It, it literally induces a style of breathwork that helps you release things, energy or, or emotions that are trapped in your body.
**Unknown:** And it was just such a fucking aha moment that I was like, "Holy shit." You know? We, we put this label on it, panic attack. Sounds horrible. Sounds terrible, you know?
**Unknown:** Like, I don't want those. When it's actually essentially like a breathwork release. And what do we do? Yes, but, I mean, that's- We numb them ...
**Unknown:** that's what a, a seizure is too, and just more for the neurological system to reset. That's a topic. Yep, could be another one. But your b- your body, the...
**Unknown:** globally, it's to understand your bodies never make a mistakes, man. Like- Yeah ... whether we call it a disease, whether we call it a panic attack, whether we call it a seizure, like, your body is always actually doing its best to maintain balance. So what, like you said, a panic attack was, it's the body trying to create space through an increased amount of oxygenation to be able to actually release everything that you've been holding in.
**Unknown:** And even old shit, though. Like- Fucking brilliant. Fucking brilliant. Yeah.
**Unknown:** What's, what's very cool is that you can, like you said, with breathwork, you don't have to wait to have a panic attack. You can do different types of breathwork to actually create more of that oxygenation, to create more space, to be able to release that stored tension and balances from the body. So and that tension, you know, on the scientific people are like, "Oh, that's fucking woo woo." You know? It's like some people explain your, your breath is regulated by the mind, and that regulation comes from actually the heart is what regulates breath.
**Unknown:** 'Cause the heart is actually what regulates the diaphragm neurologically, et cetera. But that process from the mind is everything comes in to us consciously and, or unconsciously if we're just using our old patterns and belief systems. But we either see that in the state of balance, and then we have a balanced breath. You know, we're not overly sympathetic, we're not overly parasympathetic.
**Unknown:** We're just in a state of balance. That's the groundedness, that's the present we're talking about. But if we see more good or more bad, more benefits or more drawbacks, that's an imbalanced perception, and then that changes the m- the mind to the body, that we're overly excited or we're overly fearful, sad, angry, et cetera. You know, name the feeling.
**Unknown:** That changes our breath to be overly sympathetic or overly parasympathetic. That breath is also connected to a charge imbalance psychosomatically to an organ system, and that's where, quote-unquote, this energy gets stuck. So when we breathe in, we can do a overall full body breath exercise just to allow whatever needs to, to go to, to be oxygenated, to create that space of the imbalanced tension. Sometimes we'll have trembles, sometimes we'll have shakes, sometimes we'll yell, sometimes we'll cry, sometimes, you know, that's a fucking panic attack.
**Unknown:** You know? We'll, we'll do these things, and the body will be able to give it space. But I wanna say this because I think this is really important. You know, any time we do the testing that we do-specifically your style of testing, integrated response testing, and someone tests well for breathwork, I always, you know, will say, "Here's a resource," hence if they're in Jersey, I, I recommend Eric for breathwork.
**Unknown:** But the thing is, is it, it's two things. One, if you feel... If you don't feel willing to be vulnerable enough, you're not going to benefit from it. So if you are w- willing to be vulnerable, but maybe you feel more comfortable doing it one-to-one private in your own home versus in a group, you have to decide these things.
**Unknown:** Because when you go through and you have this... You know, you do this breathwork, and you, your, your body is going to try to release, that could be like, like hysterical laughter. It could be hysterical crying. It could be screaming.
**Unknown:** It could be punching. It could be kicking. It could... It just...
**Unknown:** It, it's probably not pretty . And you have to be vulnerable enough to say like, "I don't care if I'm fucking ugly crying. I don't care if I'm kicking, or punching, or screaming shit on the top of my lungs. Like, I'm willing to go there." Because the last thing you wanna do is induce that breathwork and then fucking hold it in more, because y- you can almost like, um...
**Unknown:** I don't wanna say- It's gotta be... You gotta match the energy. It's, it's, it's like a homeopathy. It's a self-induced homeopathy when you think about it.
**Unknown:** Yeah. So like cures like in homeopathy, so you know. It, and it doesn't- And I feel like you can fuck your system up a little bit if you're like, "I'm gonna do this thing, aka the breathwork, to release this, but I don't... I'm not really ready to release it." And then like your, your mind is kinda like, "What the fuck are you doing?" It's not what you do, but how you do it.
**Unknown:** Truth. Truth. Um, so one other thing that I wanna mention, so this panic attack that I had was the second one in my life. The first one, if you remember, Nick, was, uh, during- No, I don't remember.
**Unknown:** Ah. I don't remember this. What... That morning, what I told you...
**Unknown:** Was it that morning that I told you- Yeah ... I didn't love you? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
**Unknown:** It's fucking awesome. I've never loved you. Ah. And I'm sitting there like, "Okay." Took it like a champ.
**Unknown:** Great. Sounds, sounds awesome, babe. Um, so this was during, um, Do- You go have a fantastic day ... Dr.
**Unknown:** Joe Dispenza. So for those- Mm ... of you that don't know who Joe Dispenza is, he is the, um, the doctor who, he was, uh, paralyzed, and he healed himself through meditation and breathwork. And now he hosts these events all over the world all, you know, all times of the year.
**Unknown:** And it's a, a deep immersive in meditation. And I did the kaleidoscope meditation, and, uh, later that day, I ended up having a panic attack that was actually... I had it, f- still felt really off, and then I ate something and it all dissipated, and I felt like more calm in my body than I did in a really long time. So I was sitting there and I was like, "Damn, this is blood sugar correlated." So AKA this panic attack was correlated to releasing something out of my pancreas, 'cause your pancreas regulates your blood sugar.
**Unknown:** And so what's kind of interesting, if you get into the neuro-Germanic medicine, the psychosomatics of the pancreas, is when you can't digest life, you feel pressure, you feel resistance. And when I learned that, I was like, "Ooh, man, that is loaded." Because that is just something that I... Not being able to digest life was something I felt a lot as, in childhood, and then as I then became an entrepreneur- And life, to make it more easily understandable, life's joy. You can't...
**Unknown:** It's always, life's always a fucking struggle. Like, there's always- Yeah ... something you do- Life is hard ... there's always a problem.
**Unknown:** Life is a struggle. Like, but you can't just experience joy. Yeah. That's not being able to process life.
**Unknown:** That's what it's really meaning. And, and the pressure part of it was just being an entrepreneur, feeling... Like, even though Nick and I were in this together, like he would always ask me, he's like, "Why do you feel like it's all on you?" And it wasn't logical, it was just that's the way that I was programmed at that time, is just like I'm responsible for all of these employees, I'm responsible for all these patients, I'm responsible for this building, I'm responsible for everything. I'm responsible for people's outcomes.
**Unknown:** I'm f- responsible for people's happiness. And hence one of the reasons why we downsized our business after we had a child was because I was like, "I can't, I, I can't operate this way and be able to be a good parent." Um, and obviously I had no idea at that time that that was taking me on such a significant life journey of my own personal growth and development. But, um, you know, the, the point that I'm trying to make here is that, you know, these panic attacks are sometimes helping you to release things a- as a whole, but sometimes they're actually helping you to release things that are very specific programs, belief systems, traumas that are trapped in very, very specific organs or parts of your body. So going back, it's not what you do, but how you do it, you know, you have a panic attack.
**Unknown:** Most people would try to stop it, 'cause it doesn't feel good. So then your body, the universe gave you an opportunity to heal a lot of shit, but you said, "Nope, not going to." Okay, boom, you have a panic attack. You actually allow to feel it. You allow it to pass through.
**Unknown:** Awesome, you just had a huge release through the body. But did you capitalize on, like you said, where that was actually connected to? The or- what organ system? Where did you feel that panic inside of you?
**Unknown:** And 'cause every single space is intelligently, geopositionally, um, connected with the mind.So, you know, the space of the pancreas, for instance, you know, that's connected to not actually allowing yourself to process life, to experience the joy, that joy's just another balanced, uh, feeling. Joy, gratitude, love. Mm-hmm. Um, happiness and sadness is the imbalanced version.
**Unknown:** People mistake joy, um, for that. So being able to actually live a joyous life. Okay, well now let's use that for your mental wellbeing. So just because you allowed...
**Unknown:** The, the body's the last part of that process, so let's go higher up, you know? The cycles could still be running- Mm ... so let's go up and be able to use that into the mind. Like, where, where do you have a belief system that life can't be joyous, that you can't just live in a state of gratitude and love and joy?
**Unknown:** And then let's go even higher up into the spirit aspect. Where are you not serving yourself? Where are you not being inspirational to be able to actually live that joyous life? So- It's- ...
**Unknown:** a panic at- a panic attack can give us so much opportunity to grow, to heal, to love, and I think that's one of the biggest things is understanding that there, there are no mistakes. Like we're talking about the stroke with your mom, like the stroke with the thalamus. You know, the thalamus is the relay center of the brain. It's being able to take all of that information from making decisions to be in an inspired life, to have a balanced mind, to allow that mental to go through and to relay to serve the body.
**Unknown:** And if there's such a disconnect between not wanting to live, not wanting to serve thyself, well, then we have death. Mm-hmm. And that's the aspect of stroke because stroke is connected to blood flow, and blood flow is literally the channeling- Life ... of life- Yeah ...
**Unknown:** of love. Yeah. Yeah, and two things that I wanna mention, um, quickly that are important is one, um, this... I wanna talk, just go back really quick to the whole pa- idea of the pancreas.
**Unknown:** Like can't digest life, you know, can't experience joy. Um, uh, this is one of the reasons why there is a correlation with, um, eating disorders because, uh, eating disorders are, uh, essentially a form of self-in- inflicted pain. So when you think you're deserving of struggle, deserving of pain, you have a tendency to not eat, um, because it's a, it's a version of creating pain, discipline for yourself. And this is something that goes back to blood sugar dysregulation, which then correlates back to a specific program trauma negative experience that can be held in that pancreatic tissue.
**Unknown:** Um, and I, I wanna say that just because I see that pattern very often, and nowadays I think a lot of people are switching from, quote unquote, like eating disorders to f- intermittent fasting, um, or restrictive elimination diets in the world of functional medicine and integrative medicine, and it's like a different version of creating- It can- ... that same kind of pain ... it can be that. It's slightly different if it's more body dysmorphia.
**Unknown:** Um, but- I just think that bod- But yeah ... body dysmorphia is more common than people are willing to admit. I sure as hell wasn't willing to admit that. Um, but it's like with social media and the comparison game, now we have AI and filters enhancing people's bodies, and it's like, "Will I ever look that good without plastic surgery?" So I, I think that...
**Unknown:** I just wanted to make, uh, circle that point out because- I've had two kids. My boobs aren't the same. They're never gonna be the same. Hey, listen, sensitive subject, bro.
**Unknown:** Sensitive subject. Um, but one other thing that I, we, that happened in the same time of the panic attack that I had, um, was also something that I, I want people to be aware of because it, we could easily sit here and say like, "Oh, you just need to do breathwork, and then, you know, you, uh, uh, lean into your panic attacks and everything will be all good in the hood." Doesn't always work that way. And, you know, sometimes because in the event that there has been this, you know, this fear or this panic or this trauma, you know, it changes your biochemistry, increases your stress hormones, drops your sex hor- or stress hormones, drops your sex hormones, you know, changes your gut microbiome. There's other things that can happen.
**Unknown:** So depending on how long this has been going on and how long you feel that you've been experiencing either panic attacks or you've been experiencing anxiety, there could be other things that are going on that can limit your ability to heal. And so hence one of the reasons why we do an integrative approach is like how do we bridge the gap? How do we support the, the physiology, the biochemistry of the body, but also work on the mind and work on the energetic state so that it all syncs together? But leading up to this panic attack for me, Nick was like, "You're switched." It's called neurological switching.
**Unknown:** I don't wanna confuse anybody, but essentially he was saying, like my nervous system was off. And this neurological switching can happen, and like I felt it. I was in it. And it was like when nothing w- is making rational sense.
**Unknown:** Like I feel weird or off or worried or anxious or even like a little racy in my heart, but there's not a reason why. Like, it's not like Nick and I had a fight, or somebody said something mean to me, or like something happened. I'm just feeling like that, like walking around or at a restaurant or in a grocery store, and I'm like, "What the fuck is this?"So I want people to understand that sometimes there... if y- especially if you're experiencing panic or you're experiencing anxiety that feels irrational, like it's not warranted, like it's coming out of nowhere, it's in really bizarre circumstances, that can sometimes be associated with neurological imbalances, like this thing called neurological switching.
**Unknown:** It could be energetic imbalances. It could even be physiological imbalances. It could be all of those things. So don't get down on yourself if you s- if you really take this podcast to heart, and you go, "I'm gonna get a breathing coach," or, "I'm gonna do some breathwork," or, "I'm gonna do these things.
**Unknown:** I'm gonna lean into my, my, my panic attack. I'm not taking meds anymore." And if you, if you do those things and you're like, "Eh, fuck, this ain't working for me"- ... understand that there might be other layers to this. There's- Well, and it's not that it's necessarily a, an only/or.
**Unknown:** Yes. You know? It, it can be both. You can, you can do the breathwork, but- Yes ...
**Unknown:** you'll get even better results if you support the body and the mind. 'Cause the breath, like I was saying before, your, your breath is the tool that connects the two. It's, it's what actually... it's...
**Unknown:** your breath is the channel of ether. So it's actually taking that information from the mind and transferring it to the body. Mm-hmm. So breathwork is very powerful because you're changing up that process, but, you know, clinically speaking, you need to support the mind and you need to support the body through the process to get the best results.
**Unknown:** Yeah. The, the main thing that we want you guys to take away from this is that this is about shifting your perception of a panic attack. It's about taking the step back to say, "My body is doing exactly what it needs to do, and this is actually helping me to release something that no longer serves me." So don't fear it. Use it.
**Unknown:** Be more empowered. Be more empowered. You know, i- it's, it's the same thing, I, I use this phrase a lot, and I love it, and it's personally been very empowering to me. It's like, rejection is redirection.
**Unknown:** It's all about your perception. You know, if you have something that happens to you, you lose your job, you know, you lose, um, you know, get a divorce, you, you lose your boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it is, you know, the rejection- Your wife tells you that she doesn't love you and has never loved you- ... I'm like, "Okay. Okay." So the rejection of, of that circumstance, that person, is usually redirecting you to your, your path, the path that's more appropriate, the path that's more aligned.
**Unknown:** And so th- that's a simple perception shift is like, "Okay, this challenging thing just happened. I just got triggered. I just got upset. I just got scared.
**Unknown:** I just feel rejected. And now, okay, let me take the step back to see where this is redirecting me so I can, I can turn a challenge into opportunity." And it's the same idea. It's, "Okay, I had this panic attack. Now I'm gonna sit back and I'm going to know that this happened for a reason.
**Unknown:** This is here f- to help me release something that no longer serves me. This is actually here to benefit me, and I'm going to, I'm gonna lean into it, and I'm going to reframe the, the idea, and, and change the name of it." You know? Don't... like, cos- us calling or society calling it a panic attack is part of the problem.
**Unknown:** You know? If you, if you look at it as a, as a release, an energetic release, a breath release, a, you know, a, an emotional release, e- even if you switch the name of it, that's going to help you to even shift the perception around it. Yeah. All right.
**Unknown:** Drop. Nick's got nothing. Yeah. Be empowered.
**Unknown:** Be, be you, man. All right, guys. We hope you enjoyed this three-part series, um, all inspired by my mom. And for those of you wondering, she's doing really well.
**Unknown:** Um, she officially has mobility back in her left leg. Um, she is, was able to stand. She's still... we're still working on mobility of the left arm.
**Unknown:** She's in better spirits. Uh, she is not needing pain medication. Cognitively, she is doing really well. It will be a bit of a work in progress for her to, um, you know, be able to articulate the way she used to, but overall, things are moving in the right direction, and we're very grateful for, um, Flexbeam.
**Unknown:** Shout out to Flexbeam. We're so grateful for AmpCoil. We are so grateful for, um, CellCore, their supplements, Fullscript for all the other supplements, Apex Energetics, for PhytoBrain-E. Like, there's been- PhytoBrain's pretty, pretty amazing ...
**Unknown:** yeah, so many amazing, uh, things that we've been able to put together for her healing process. And, you know, honestly, the, the body never ceases to amaze me with how fucking amazing, brilliant, resilient it is. Um, so yeah, we hope you enjoyed this. We hope you're inspired.
**Unknown:** And, um, yeah, we'll see you on the next podcast. We thank you so much for being an avid listener of IntegrativeU Radio, formerly known as Integrative Wellness Radio. We appreciate all of your support. We love your comments.
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