Sounds waves can save you life - especially when nothing else worked with Tyler Engle
Episode 221
In this episode of Integrative You Radio, Dr. Nick engages in a fascinating conversation with Tyler Engle about the intricate connection between vibrations, consciousness, and healing. They delve into the concept of cymatics and how the vibrations of the brain play a crucial role in shaping our thoughts and feelings. Exploring the ancient wisdom of cultures like the Egyptians and the significance of structures like cathedrals, they discuss the intentional use of resonance and sacred geometry for healing purposes. Tyler sheds light on the interplay between quantum physics and these ancient practices, emphasizing the importance of exploring various paths, such as sacred geometry and quantum science, to gain a holistic understanding of the intricate web connecting spirituality, science, and human experience. The episode concludes with a profound discussion on love as the synthesis of opposites, inviting listeners to open their hearts to the interconnectedness of all aspects of life for transformative growth and healing. Interested in learning more about Dr. Nick & Dr. Nicole’s courses, memberships, or private work? Learn more at Integrative You . Have a quick question, Would you like to schedule a call, or just want to say hi? Text us at 732.913.0009. Our mission to innovate humans & Healthcare does NOT start and stop with us! This is why we are also dedicated to helping other practitioners in evolving healthcare too! If you are a healthcare leader and are looking to up-level your clinical + business excellence Learn more about our course membership: Limitless Healthprenuer and start boldly disrupting this industry! What you’ll learn: Vibrations and Consciousness: The episode explores the fascinating connection between vibrations, consciousness, and healing, examining the impact of brain vibrations on thoughts and emotions. Ancient Wisdom and Modern Science: Tyler discusses the ancient practices of cultures like the Egyptians and the intentional use of resonance and sa
Topics: healing, ancient, unknown, tyler, brain, energy, vibrations, integrative
Key takeaways from this episode
- ## Sounds Waves Can Save Your Life - Especially When Nothing Else Worked with Tyler Engle
- The brain's vibrations are intrinsically linked to our thoughts, emotions, and overall consciousness.
- Ancient cultures utilized resonance and sacred geometry for intentional healing purposes, an understanding re-emerging with modern science.
- Exploring both quantum physics and ancient wisdom offers a more comprehensive perspective on the interconnectedness of science, spirituality, and the human experience.
- Love serves as the ultimate synthesis of opposing forces, fostering holistic growth and healing.
Pull quotes
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Transcript
**Unknown:** Welcome to Integrative U Radio, hosted by Dr. Nick Carruthers and yours truly, Dr. Nicole Rivera. This is the place where you become limitless.
**Unknown:** We are covering the latest and greatest topics, of course, in a disruptive fashion, around integrative medicine, mental health, and human behavior. We are also covering how those topics affect the human and family dynamics. We will be sprinkling in some truth bombs for our healthpreneurs so they can join us in our mission to evolve healthcare. If you are health curious and growth focused, you are in the right place.
**Unknown:** But buckle up, because this is real, this is raw, and this is disruptive. This is Integrative U Radio. All right. Welcome back to another episode of Integrative U Radio.
**Unknown:** Today, we are blessed with the presence of Tyler Engel, and he has spent a lot of time, energy, and money mastering some weird fucking concepts that most people don't give a shit about. And it goes from vibration, vibrational medicine, vibrational energy, frequency, quantum physics, ancient history. What else do we have in there? Cymatics, you're a huge geek into.
**Unknown:** And I'm fascinated with all these things, being able to, coming from my doctor brain, is everything is just energy, and all energy shows up in patterns. And when I realized that, I understand that sicknesses will show up in patterns, symptoms will show up in patterns and cycles, and that's what really dove me into really getting into understanding vibrational energy and frequencies, because if we don't go back far enough, kind of like peeling the layers of an onion, well, we never stop the cycle from occurring again. And when I ran onto your social media page, I was, you know, instantly bromance, and I gobbled up everything and purchased some of your books. So if, if you're into this stuff, he's written some awesome, really easy books, um, to go through and...
**Unknown:** But they're not just, like, simple. Like, they're easy to read and understand, but they're complex, you know, information, so definitely check it out. So if I missed anything in there, how you wanna introduce yourself, Tyler, definitely add to that. That was, that was an excellent intro, man.
**Unknown:** That was ... You, you hit almost all the bases. Yeah. I am a musician as well.
**Unknown:** I'm, uh, planning a, a tour, if you're into electronic music, this year, so I will be announcing that on the socials. But other than that, yeah, you nailed it right on the head. And you're, you're creating a track with some visuals, right? I think I saw on a post.
**Unknown:** Oh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, so I'm working with, uh, a lot of visual artists.
**Unknown:** Um, I, I, I can make my own, but, uh, there's a lot of really talented people out there, and I'm trying to work with as many as possible to create, um, kind of an experience like what, uh, you would get in my book, but way more entertaining and way louder. Nice. That's the, that's the goal. Yeah.
**Unknown:** We need, we need the, uh, the decibels to, to wake the fuck up- Yeah. ... this, this time and age. Yeah.
**Unknown:** It's like if it's n- if it's not gonna shock you, it's kinda just like, "Oh, well, we're gonna walk on by and entertain me." That's how I hook you first. So diving into patterns, what would you say is the first primary most important thing to, to try to understand when it comes to pattern recognition? Uh, sacred geometry for sure. It's...
**Unknown:** Hands down. Um, just because it's so easy to... Like, the concepts are so easy to understand, and with cymatics and stuff like that, it's really easy to teach, especially to kids and to people who have never encountered it before, because it's really engaging. You know, if you have a whiteboard and you're drawing out stuff, you know, in front of kids, they're going to fall asleep because it's not really that engaging.
**Unknown:** But if you have a speaker with some water on it or a subwoofer and you're, you know, pumping a whole lot of energy into that water and the water is making crazy shapes and you're like, "Whoa. Hold on. What's going on here?" That's... That I think is far more, uh, effective- Yep ...
**Unknown:** at teaching this stuff than anything else, and it... At the fundamental level of everything that we're experiencing right now is all geometry. And when you understand that- So when you talk about sacred geometry, like, to somebody that's never heard of that before, like, what does sacred geometry mean compared to just regular geometry? So traditional geometry, when I learned traditional geometry, I thought it was just the relation of shapes to mathematics, but sacred geometry is a little different.
**Unknown:** Sacred geometry is that, but it's how the universe or how reality that you live in, the patterns that you see every day, like if, um, you know, the golden ratio, the seeds in sunflowers, the rings of a tree, the ripples in a pond, they all do that for a reason. They don't just happen randomly. There's a pattern there, and there's a reason why that pattern occurs. And sacred geometry is the study of why those patterns occur and how they relate to us as beings and the universe as a whole.
**Unknown:** So it's more of a, um, geometry for philosophy. It's, it's, i- integrates everything- Yeah ... instead of just the math. When I always kind of explain it, just taking it, it's, you know, w- as a, as a doctor we go through when we try to, like, figure out the root cause of something.
**Unknown:** Mm-hmm. And it's like, well, at root cause of creation, we have sacred geometry. It's- Yeah ... it's the fundamental building blocks of how nature creates everything, even the Fibonacci sequence of, like, the body and, like- Yeah ...
**Unknown:** from the fingers down to the hand to the arm, you know, the whole thing too. Like, everything follows a cert- set of principles or universal laws, and that sacred geometry is-... those building blocks. You can think about like, you know- Yeah ...
**Unknown:** building life together. And it's, so and it's an elegant system. I think it's, it's really easy to understand because w- well, it's for... When I was in college, I was trying to relate all of these different things, all of the subjects I was taking to the different things, you know, what, what, like, what is this knowledge?
**Unknown:** What is the base of this knowledge going to give me? You know? Like, all, I have all these pieces, but what can I use with all of the pieces? And I didn't use anything with my degree like that.
**Unknown:** I- Yeah ... until sacred geometry, I was like, "Oh, I can re- relate this to this," you know? Like, at a fundamental level, this thing over here can affect my diet, you know? This shape over here can affect how I sleep.
**Unknown:** Like, all of it, once you know how it's all connected, makes it really easy to learn because you don't have to compartmentalize your learning. It's all the same thing. So that, to me, was the biggest benefit of it, and the, like, the biggest epiphany I had once I started learning and looking at the patterns. So be- before I get into the next question, I do wanna d- put a disclaimer out.
**Unknown:** If you're listening to this on a normal podcast, you might wanna go onto YouTube to watch it so you can actually see the videos, because Tyler's also gonna be probably dropping in, as he usually does on his social media, some very cool pictures or some short clips to be able to better understand things, as- Yeah ... most of us are visual learners. Absolutely. Yeah.
**Unknown:** So the second question is, so sacred geometry is, like, the foundation of creating the shapes of cymatics. What's cymatics, and why is that so important? So cymatics is visualizing sound waves through a particular medium. It doesn't necessarily have to be water.
**Unknown:** Um, there's a thing called a Chladni plate. You can create standing waves on a flat piece of metal by drawing a bowstring, like a, a violin bow across it, and it creates these patterns. This was discovered in the 1800s, um, and it was experimented long before that. Um, discovered is a loose term for this, but, um, this goes back all the way to the dawn of recorded history.
**Unknown:** All these patterns occur on the oldest buildings that we have, so it's kind of a, um, it's a pretty well-studied, uh, field. And now we're getting into some really cool stuff. Uh, I've posted a couple videos about bubble cymatics, and they can create some 4D shapes, which is pretty sweet. And then, um, plasma cymatics, which is pretty...
**Unknown:** It's not new. If you've seen a Tesla coil play music, that's plasma cymatics. But, um, now we're, we're able to manipulate fire with high voltage and a whole bunch of other cool things where you can modulate a signal through a medium like plasma that's very, um... It's like a gas, you know, so it can move really quickly, and you can see a lot more detail in the frequencies, uh, versus, like, water, where you have to kinda pump a, a very clean sine wave through the, through this dish on a speaker to see the patterns.
**Unknown:** The fire, you can kinda get really crazy now, and we c- we're starting to see a lot more detail, um, in how it r- interacts with the natural world with, with the plasma. So that's... I'm really into that. I'll be posting a lot about that soon.
**Unknown:** But cymatics is probably, um, the most engaging content I have for that reason, is 'cause it's, it's so... It's, it's natural, and it looks like magic sometimes. Well, this... I mean, I understood it, but when I saw the post, and I forget who you reposted the video from, uh, it was a scientist, somebody that'd taken, um, the cymatics of different vibrations, and then that was in a two-dimensional, and then they used a computer program and put it into a three-dimensional.
**Unknown:** Mm-hmm. And then through that layer, they put, um, different colors through it. And then they overlapped it and put them together, and it was, like, this baby's face. And it was just, like, my mind blown.
**Unknown:** I'm like, "Oh, this is so simple." Like, our body's literally just this combination of- Yeah ... these different frequencies coming up to a unity expression of thyself. And then it's just this- Yeah, so Tetros is a, a excellent color mixer there. You can't really do that with normal cymatics.
**Unknown:** Like, he is a very talented artist. But the concept, yeah, is insane, right? Like, if you think about yous- yourself as a cross-section of just- Yeah ... different layers, it's, it kinda makes a little more sense.
**Unknown:** Well, there's, uh... I'm, I forget this too, but this is completely off-topic, but there's this, um, artist that would literally take sheets of glass, and he'd put, like, flowers, like real, actual, um, specimens, organs, plants on it, and then put another sheet of glass and would do it. And it would create, like, this 3D, uh, structure. Oh, that's so nice.
**Unknown:** And they're, like, they're massively heavy. But like- Yeah ... from all these different whatever they're putting in, flowers, et cetera, like, he'll put in puzzle pieces, like all these different things. Mm-hmm.
**Unknown:** He'll create, like, a human body, and you'll look at it and, like, that looks like a human body. And then you look closer- Yeah ... and you're like, that flower has an, its own design within it. Mm-hmm.
**Unknown:** And the puzzle pieces connect to make its own design. And you're just like, that complexity of awareness just blew my mind. Like, but it's kind of like the cymatics making up of who we are. Yeah.
**Unknown:** It's just all these... Like, 'cause you're... I always, like, joke, but we're a universe, you know? Our organ systems are like different planets.
**Unknown:** And we have literally chakras that are connected to different planets. And it's like, so we have all of these different, literally, you know, the entire universe as above, so below. The, we're the microcosm living in the big macrocosm. But, like, we have that power that we're not, most of us aren't aware of to be able to dictate the expression of each one of those systems.
**Unknown:** And I feel like- Hear... Go ahead. Sorry ... that's the, the, the understanding the cymatics, that's what, like, gets me, like, crazy passionate and fired up about, like, there, there's some mathematics to this.
**Unknown:** There's potential. Yeah. Your, your body, all of your... You have what?
**Unknown:** 70 trillion cells inside of your body? A few, yeah. Yeah, you have quite a few. And all of them are vibrating.
**Unknown:** Almost as much as the US national debt today. Almost. Almost. But if you want to tell them to curl your hand into a fist, they listen to you.
**Unknown:** You know? That's, that's the mechanical system responding to you as the controller of that mechanical system, right? Like m- biomechanical system. But they all have their...
**Unknown:** If you, you know, if you get cut or something and you take a cell of your, of your hand and look at it under a microscope, it still functions for a while on its own. It still knows how to, how to survive on its own, but it needs somebody to command it, and that is you. And the level of command-- this is what's interested me the most out of all of this, the level-- what, what is the potential here? Where does that end?
**Unknown:** What is the limit of the human ability to control that energy? What is the- Just awareness, I would assume ... where does, where does the mind stop? Yeah.
**Unknown:** You know? Isn't it just awareness? Yeah, but what's the abi- like there's, there's huge potential for, um, I mean, you know very well, placebo and all of these, these phenomenon that are not explainable. What are...
**Unknown:** Well, if they're not explainable and we have to have controlled tests against placebo, then why don't we focus on learning how to use the placebo, you know, for, for anything, literally anything? 'Cause I know like- Well, I mean- Especially- ... it's money. We know why That is money, yeah.
**Unknown:** Yeah. But th- there's other things too other than medicine. Like I, I know at the... Let's say I go to the gym and I have a, you know, f- I'm, I'm not really in it that day and I go just to go through the motions.
**Unknown:** The next day I'm probably like not sore at all. But if I go to the gym with an intention and I'm like, "I'm gonna, you know, really hit abs today," and I really focus on it and I really put all that energy into it, the next day I can't even walk, you know? I can't even stand up straight 'cause you're... That's energy directed into an intention, and that's what a, a huge part of what I write in my books is about that, is it's nice to have this fundamental understanding of geometry and vibration, but that is kind of useless if you're not gonna do anything with it.
**Unknown:** So a lot of the, the last half of Codex and the first book I wrote is just how to use that, just how to kinda get in control of the power that you have and use it. And that's the fun part about it is, I mean, we're all either usually more left brain or more right brain, but you don't have to master the other one to be able to use this. It's like you don't have- Yeah ... to understand how all this works.
**Unknown:** Like- Yeah ... we both geek out about it 'cause it's fascinating, but w- you don't have to understand it to be able to use, to use it to work for you. And it's free. That's the best part.
**Unknown:** And it's free. It's very-- I mean, it takes some, some time to kinda flip that switch in programming, but that's, that's also a lie because that goes back just to the intensity of our belief system. I say that, well, time is relative. How much energy...
**Unknown:** If you want it to happen quicker, you could really focus on it and, you know, become an experienced meditator in a month. Like I, I would say it's, it's a lifelong practice, but depending on how badly you want it, you can get it whatever speed w- is within, you know, the reasonable limits of reality. Um, I think you could start using this a- almost immediately. I know if, uh, if I haven't meditated in a while and I go back to it, then I immediately, one, I pick it back up like I, I never left, but I immediately recognize the benefits of it and I'm like, "Okay, this is why I've been foggy a lot lately is 'cause I haven't taken time to empty out the trash," you know?
**Unknown:** Yeah. And it's like, it, I mean, it shouldn't be used for this, but sometimes I do is like I don't have to sleep very much if I'm meditating a lot . I, yeah, I totally get that. So if I, if I delegate a lot of sleep with some extra meditation, it's just like I'm still more in alignment, I'm still more vibrant, and I'm still more on purpose- ...
**Unknown:** like all these things- Yeah ... than like if I'm getting nine hours of sleep and then I'm like, you know, not doing anything. 'Cause it's, that's a, that... I don't know if it's 80/20 what the...
**Unknown:** You think there's a percentage of like the internal being aspect to that external doing, um, that gives us that creation of the have. I, I would say it's probably 80/20. I know if I sleep extra, like too long, then I, I actually perform worse. My sweet spot's like six hours.
**Unknown:** If I can nail six hours and then I have a good 30-minute meditation during the day and I hit the gym, it's like I can do whatever. There's nothing that like... If I have a to-do list, it's all getting done that day . Yeah.
**Unknown:** If I miss it, you know, like my routine gets a little s- messed up, especially with like music. If I have like a gig that goes really late and throws that off, I have to l- I have to really focus and, and be like, "Okay, we gotta, you know, get back on this routine or you're gonna have a crappy week next week." So when you think about meditation, 'cause I mean, I'm sure we have s- a decent amount of listeners that are meditating and some that are not, how does meditation play a role with Cymatics? Oh, you can measure it now. So they've, um...
**Unknown:** I think it was-- I don't wanna quote the university 'cause I don't have it right now, but they were doing a study on monks, and the, uh, ins- the, their ability to regulate the frequency of the brain is unnaturally good. So like they can take it from almost a sleep state, and this is in an MRI machine, you know? Like they're just a huge magnet flying around them reading their brain, and they're able to go to almost sleep state to what we would consider flow state, and then now they've discovered that there's a, a lambda state above gamma that they can achieve that resembles a lot of like psychedelic experiences that people have when they get measured, um, after, you know, lysergic acid or something like that. But the, the modulation of your brainwaves is absolutely critical.
**Unknown:** Like try and, try and take a, a, you know, an ACT test at 8:00 AM in the morning. You're not gonna do that hot, you know? Like that's... There's a lot of things that go into, uh, like performing at your, at your best, and this is just even i- in work or relaxing, and it all has to do with modulating that frequency.
**Unknown:** And a lot of people don't know how to modulate it at all, or they think it's random that they don't feel good today, or like they can't focus, or, you know, the massive-ADHD problem that we have. It's not, uh, I really don't believe in that. I just believe you... If there's an inability to control what gear your brain is in, because no one's taught this.
**Unknown:** In the, in, in the Eastern philosophies, if you grew up in a house like that, you probably know. But even some of my friends that grew up in those households, their parents didn't teach them that either, and I rely on it every single day. I could not do anything that I do unless I have a pretty good habit of taming my mind, 'cause it wants to go off and explore all these wild conspiracy theories and do cymatic experiments. But I gotta pay bills just like everybody else, so- The mind is a beast that, um- It is a beast ...
**Unknown:** it's, it's the part of that process to be able to, if you master your mind, your body follows suit. It's... Uh, there was a, um, analogy of, um... It was like a wild elephant.
**Unknown:** It's an Eastern analogy, but, um, they, they relate the brain to an elephant. That's why, um, Ganesh, if you look at some of the drawings of Ganesha, um, he, uh, resembles the, the cross-section of the brain. Um, and he had a lot to do with, like, taming those impulses. Mm-hmm.
**Unknown:** And if you can... It's like a horse. If you, if you break the horse, it'll be loyal, and it will listen to you, and it will perform what you need it to do. But if you don't and you let it go wild, then it's not gonna be very useful to you.
**Unknown:** You probably won't even be able to ride it, unless it wants you to ride it, you know? Right. And you'll probably get bucked off. It's not gonna feel good.
**Unknown:** You definitely will. So going back to cymatics, you talked a little bit about the vibration, and literally the vibration of just mainly so far of just how the brain works. Mm-hmm. Uh, so the, the brain...
**Unknown:** And correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause you're definitely deeper at this, but, like, your brain's sending out a signal, a thought, and from that, our thoughts are what creates our feelings. And our feelings is literally kinda, like, what I explain, like, the magnetic force that's going out into the universe that we're attracting the same or similar energy right back into us for the feedback loop to see, like, okay, I'm... Am I in alignment with serving my authentic self, or am I not in alignment with serving my authentic self? Yeah.
**Unknown:** And this is kinda, like, what jumped me back with, like, when you were talking about ADD. The first thing I do with anybody I work with is get crystal clear on their hierarchy of values, so what's most important to them. 'Cause what I've found with every attentive disorder case is that they're just either don't see how it's serving them, or they're doing something that's not in alignment with what's most important to them, so the brain's gonna get distracted. There's no distraction.
**Unknown:** We don't care about pain and pleasure when we're loving ourselves, when we're giving what's most important to ourselves. We're just- Yeah ... like, in that flow state saying, "This is fucking awesome. This is- Mm-hmm ...
**Unknown:** this is what's most important to me." But anytime that we're outside of that, that creates a polarization and charge which alters the vibration, and then that changes the form, the cymatics, so we're gonna have some type of symptom, which is... We think is bad, but it's really just a wake-up call saying like, "Hey, you probably are out of alignment." It's an alarm. So you're saying how, how do those re- the, the vibrations affect the, the emotions? Is that- Well, I was gonna ask you two things.
**Unknown:** One, going back to understand, like, those vi- the vibrations with the mind, 'cause we were talking about that, but also I know you're into, like, technologies and different things. Like, what things could you talk about that using, like, almost, like, energy... I don't wanna call it energy medicine, um, but it's, like, how we can use different technologies to also support our body and our mind through that vibration. There's actually a lot of really cool new tech coming out about this.
**Unknown:** Um, I say it's new tech, but it's really old tech that- Kind of like- ... has resurfaced ... nothing's new. Not new at all.
**Unknown:** Um, there's, there's a lot of... A lot of people ask me about, like, Rife machines and stuff like that, that, that use, um, manipulating magnetic fields to influence a certain part of the body, and there's really, really good research coming out that it is really effective. It's, it's gonna take time to, you know, convince the medical community that you don't need a, a pill based on hydrocarbons to fix a problem. But, uh, this is, you know, we're...
**Unknown:** This is the world we live in. But these, these machines now, um, there, there's a, a key component to them. You have to, you have to be in alignment with that technology working. Like, there's a, there's a belief component because just as there's a placebo, there's a nocebo effect too.
**Unknown:** If I believe that this thing isn't going to help me, it's not going to help me. Your body responds. It's... The way you modulate your signals to your brain, it's translating everything down to your organs, you know?
**Unknown:** Like, every thought that gets the... that's here, you know, if I need to move my hand towards the screen, needs to get translated into mechanical energy. So that has to get stepped down to every system in the body so that my hand can move, right? So there, there's a vibrational component to literally every process in the body.
**Unknown:** And about 14 years ago, they did some research, um, I can't remember the organization that did this, um, but they, uh, isolated a bunch of viruses, and they put them in chambers, and they experimented with different frequencies and were able to break up, um, leukemia and a couple other cells with s- just vibration. And that's the- I remember watching that TED Talk, yeah ... that is the basis for, um, s- like, sound therapy or healing with that. But they...
**Unknown:** He was using, like, um, like, really high frequencies, like 300,000 hertz, stuff like that, for, for very small... You, you have to have that high a vibration for very small things, right? But the basis for, for traditional sound healing, the stuff that you can do at your home, is to have a carrier wave, like a bigger carrier wave, and when I say carrier wave, that means, like, a frequency within the audible range or a range that you can feel. That would be a carrier wave for a higher level healing frequency, like the ones that were used to, to hit the leukemia cells.
**Unknown:** So traditional sound therapy in, in terms of, like, um, ancient culture and, and, um, religious practice isFinding those frequencies, if say you have a block like a, you know, an intestinal problem or something, there's a frequency that resonates with those specific cells and there's one that's gonna make it harmonious, and then there's one that's going to make it dissonant. And dissonance is a chaotic signal, and like that last TikTok that I just posted, we were going over if a signal is dissonant, your brain cannot tell the difference between what it means. It's like white noise. If there's white noise over us talking, no one's gonna know what we're saying.
**Unknown:** We-- they'd have to read our lips or something, right? But the fact that our mouths can create patterns through the air with sound and it hits your ear, and then you translate that back, and then you respond, that's a communication, right? Your organs have the same thing. So sound therapy in that sense is finding the frequencies that resonate with that particular part of the body that maybe has a problem or needs healing, and then injecting that essentially into the body to get those pieces into resonance and into alignment so that they can do their job instead of being blocked up.
**Unknown:** And what's powerful is that we can do that in both ways. We can do that through taking like the harmful one, figuring out what that is, and then creating the inverse to collapse that from- Simple, yeah ... showing up, and then at the same time also giving what that organ system wants to resonate at for optimal health. So you can literally just using a vibration knock out what shouldn't be there, but then also figure out how to increase just the, the magnitude overall of that optimal vibration.
**Unknown:** And like what you said before, when you're trying to figure out what the blockage was, that is the most important part because let's say you don't know what the blockage is and you're trying to heal or you're trying to, to, to have a, um, a certain experience, right? If, if you don't change the blockage, you're feeding that bad part, that, the part that's making you sick, you're amplifying it, that it runs on that signal, and if you don't change it, let's say you're, you constantly eat bad food and you have inflammation everywhere, that is constantly giving the, those, those cells that run on that energy. So it's, it... You can think of it in both ways, even with physical processes.
**Unknown:** It doesn't necessarily have to be a sound wave entering your body. Everything is still running off of, of some sort of vibration, whether that gets converted into chemical energy in, in your gut, or if it's mechanical energy going through the air. Either way, there's an energy exchange, and knowing where the good energies are and where the bad energies are is gonna be the key to doing anything. It's gonna be the key to modulating your brain state or going through therapies that are non-invasive because it, it, within resonance, like if, if certain objects, you know, tuning forks are tuned to a specific frequency, if I hit one of them and another one is around somewhere within the range of that wave, the other one's going to resonate, right?
**Unknown:** That's the same thing in the body. If there are bad cells i- all over the place in the body, traditional medicine would take a knife and try and cut those out of you. But sound therapy and vibrational therapy just puts the vibration into your body and can break that up wherever they are. It's non-invasive, and I think that's gonna be a huge revolution when we start accepting that that is effective.
**Unknown:** Oh, 100%. I mean, getting into... Well, I wanted to... I've never talked to you about this, but my next question is I wanna talk about some scalar therapies.
**Unknown:** Um, but before that, talking about the patterns, and this is kind of, you know, after we learn something that seems so complex, but after we learn it, you're like, "That just, that's makes perfect sense. It's kinda stupid. Why didn't I know this before?" But it's like w- we always hear about a body and a mind and a spirit, and it's just like, you know, we have this physical body and energy always flows from non-physical into physical. So we have this physical body, and we're trying to put so much energy and work on this physical body, but it's the last part of creation.
**Unknown:** Yeah. So when understanding patterns, what shows up in the physical body, that pattern started higher up. So that pattern started up in a disconnect from the mind to the body or from the spirit to the mind. And I talk about spirit being kind of like two different spirits.
**Unknown:** One, your internal spirit, and that's going to that values that I was mentioning. It's like the values is what's most important to you, hence you're inspired. So if you're inspired and the mind's in alignment with literally thoughts that are inspiring you, allowing you to make decisions and take action on what's inspiring you, the body's gonna have that pattern of self-love, and that's gonna express that, roughly 432 hertz. And when we're outside of that alignment, then we're gonna be polarized, and we're gonna have that vibration go down, and what's cool about, you know, Chinese understanding, they've mapped out a broad understanding of where these frequencies and energies are being stored within different- Mm-hmm ...
**Unknown:** tissues and organ system. Okay. And it's just like freaking amazing. Yeah.
**Unknown:** They've... The, the arrogance of Western traditional, like, advice on this is it kinda blows my mind 'cause there's cultures in the East that have been studying all of this for literally thousands of years, and we're couple hundred years old with the stuff that we're using, and then we're like, "No, this is the better way." "This is, obviously, it's the better way. There's a device that you can hold, that you can do that," you know? Like, it, it's, it's a very limited perspective if you don't know that they've been doing that for hundreds of years, and their life expectancy is pretty much the same, if not more than ours in some areas, and they're using the same techniques that you just mentioned.
**Unknown:** It's just finding what's blocking and then removing the block, and that's, that not only removes the problem, it removes the problem from your life so that you can get into what you were saying, alignment. And if you can make your thoughts, words, and actions line up perfectly, one, that's confidence. That is the embodiment of confidence, and that allows you to do whatever you want. If you have a certain thing that you're trying to do, you know, and you have a thought that's like, "Well, well, I'm not, I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I'm not whatever," you know?
**Unknown:** That's your block. You're not gonna ever go farther than that if you still have that block.And no one— everyone's like, you know, "Take a, take a Adderall, that'll fix it," or, "Take, you know, this, this thing's gonna just fix all your problems." Okay, well, what if they stop making that thing? What if they stop making your Adderall forever? What if the pharmacies go out of business?
**Unknown:** You know, what are you gonna do then? And it didn't fix the problem. It just fixed, it changed the feeling. It temporarily- That's all it did, yeah ...
**Unknown:** yeah, temporarily made you not feel like crap. So one of the... We're jumping all around. One of the things from what you're talking about, maybe I'll just like realize, you know, back in the day, we used these temples and these churches for healing, and they're all designed through like creating cymatics and like, you know, even- Yeah ...
**Unknown:** the different colored glass being tempered and the- Mm ... 3D dimension of it, how energy flows through all of that, and then having, you know, a being, being able to do, you know, a meditation or working mentally through- Yeah ... as they're receiving that. Like talk to me about some of the stuff that you've kind of uncovered from ancient history in, in that aspect.
**Unknown:** Well, it's kind of a, it's an evolution too. You have to look at it like a, the, if y- the, the ruins that we do have of the, you know, oldest parts of, of, uh, our history, th- they're all built within a geometric proportion. It doesn't matter... I always tell people, "Don't look at the walls.
**Unknown:** Don't look at what's written there. Don't look at the papers. Don't look at the books yet. Look at the geometry first, because the geometry can't be changed." So if you're looking at the pyramids and stuff, and everyone's like, "Oh, we don't know how they're built," blah, blah, blah.
**Unknown:** It's like, okay, that's something to focus on, yeah. But look at the geometry that's encoded in there because that's what the message is. And the geometry is going to have the harmonics encoded in it. That's literally the key to how to use them.
**Unknown:** So there's a, there's a, a girl, I can't remember her name. She did, she did this study on cathedrals, which I would say if you're looking at all this ancient stuff and going down that rabbit hole, you have, you have the bookends of the pyramids, and then you have the cathedrals in your modern-day examples of these buildings. We don't really create anything like that anymore, so that's where our, that story ends. If you look at the cathedrals, this, um, this woman, she, she put a, uh, microphone into the cathedrals when they were dead silent, and they all have a resonance at dead silence.
**Unknown:** They all, they're specifically tuned to a, to a frequency, and there's a lot of speculation on what that could be. But they also, they resonate within the, um, their, their field that you can perceive. They resonate within the harmonics that are beautiful to our perception, and they are also beautiful to plants, they're beautiful to animals. Anyone that hears these noises, they recognize that this is not, uh, this is something I need to pay attention to.
**Unknown:** This is not chaos. I don't need to run from this. What is making this? I need to pay attention.
**Unknown:** This feels good. It feels good. So, um, when you're looking really deep into, um, Egypt, for example, they have a temple called the Osireion, and it's all megalithic granite with huge rooms, and all of the rooms are tuned to a specific frequency. And they, some of them even had places that look like for, um, a bed or something.
**Unknown:** Mm-hmm. Okay You know? Someone would go in there for some sort of purpose. So the, the, um, the...
**Unknown:** If you, if you read the native story or the, the wisdom keepers of Egypt tell you that it was for healing. The people that dug out the temple will tell you that it's for burials. But- That doesn't make any sense. ...
**Unknown:** but there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of water. There's a lot of... There's things in that temple that are not like, why would you put that there if the guy's just gonna be in a coffin, you know? It doesn't make sense.
**Unknown:** Why do you have a, a 10-ton block over your head when you could've built it out of little bricks, you know? It doesn't make sense. So, uh, those things, in my opinion, they went there for priests and priestesses who knew what they were doing frequency-wise and could manipulate those things as a conscious form of sound healing instead of like a, an electric form that we would, we would consider today, where you hook up the sensors to a computer, the computer analyzes it, and then gives you some sort of reading back about what's, what's going on with those waves. Here, it was more of a that person knows because they've done it before.
**Unknown:** They've healed people this way, and they can feel the resonances, and they can control it versus the computer. They were the computer. They were the computer. Yeah, yeah.
**Unknown:** Yeah. That's kind of like neurofeedback where you're getting- Yeah ... feedback from the computer, and you're- Right ... trying to make a change based on, you know, focus, intention, et cetera.
**Unknown:** But you're just doing that through that, your deep connection with resonance or out of resonance. Yeah. How, I mean- 'Cause the doctor can tell you something, but you could still feel like, no, something's wrong. Yeah.
**Unknown:** They can tell you you're healthy, and you can be like, "No, something feels not okay," you know? Well, and you have to be at that level to be able to feel what's off. Like, you can't- You do. Yeah.
**Unknown:** I wonder if- But there's also the cathedrals too. If, um, if you look really close, especially a lot of the ones in, um, Italy, they have, uh, they have... This is just my personal speculation, because I know they were used for the public for one thing. I was just in Italy, and I went into so many cath- like, and it f- Oh ...
**Unknown:** like, the energy was amazing. Like- Ridiculous, right? There's... Yeah.
**Unknown:** Wild. The scale and the precision and all of the... It's, it's not because they just wanted to glorify something. It's the people knew what they were doing.
**Unknown:** Yeah. The people that built it, that designed it are different than the people that built it, and the people that use it for the public are different than the people that use it in private. Oh, 'cause there's a lot of symbolism- The people that use it in- ... too.
**Unknown:** Yeah. There is. Hid it, yeah. If you know what you're looking for, you can tell the story very easily.
**Unknown:** I was like, "Holy shit. You see that?" It's like, when was this made? Yeah. It's just- It's hidden in plain sight.
**Unknown:** Like- Yep, it's all there ... that's the beauty of it. It's wild. But they...
**Unknown:** I, I think they were also using a lot of plant medicine in the cathedrals as well, um, along with the resonance. Because if you, if you do a lot of r- research into this, if you modulate your, your brain's frequency and you're clearly amplified by some compound, then your cognitive abilities... are exponential. They're not linear, they're exponential because you're using a form like what you're talking about, a scalar wave, where it's amplifying, it's doubling, doubling, doubling, doubling.
**Unknown:** So it's, so it's about l- literally the conscious frequency is getting shot out of you almost. It's like that's why we talk about like a, an astral body or like having an out of body experience means your consciousness is, is vibrating so high that it doesn't fit in your body anymore, essentially, and you can do other things with that. You're aware of being aware of being aware of being aware. Meta, meta.
**Unknown:** Meta of the meta. The... It'd be interesting if did they have, uh, like a baseline frequency of those cathedrals? I was wondering if it's Gauss frequency- They, yeah ...
**Unknown:** that 1.618. They, they, um, they do. And, um, so I, I have a bunch of theories on this, and I've never really posted about it 'cause I don't... I try not to like dip into any areas that I'm not very, very sure of, you know?
**Unknown:** I kind of, I don't wanna step on my own toes. Until you talk today. But it appears that if you, if you look at-- This is, we're still on cathedrals here. The alignments of cathedrals are different than the alignments of, um, let's say like the pyramids and stuff.
**Unknown:** They serve different functions. The cathedrals are like a 4D clock. The cathedrals have, um, they use the stained glass, they use the alignment of the structure, and they use the different chambers inside of the cathedral for different purposes, so at different times of year, which is why they don't... The, the builders of the cathedral didn't run on the Gregorian calendar either because the Gregorian calendar's off.
**Unknown:** The Gregorian calendar's for taxes. They ran off of the celestial calendar. So when the alignments hit, uh, in a lot of cathedrals like, um, Chartres for example, the sun will go through a s- a perfectly, um, clear piece of glass in the cathedral, and it will hit certain bricks on the floor at certain times of the year. And so certain s- when it hits on those things, they had certain ceremonies to do- Makes sense ...
**Unknown:** whatever they were doing. Yeah. And, um, so it's, it's not only tuning it with, with the Earth and the body, it's also tuning it with the cosmos 'cause most... Uh, the only culture that doesn't recognize that the cosmos has an influence on humanity is modern science.
**Unknown:** They're the only culture in history that's ever disregarded it completely and not played a factor in, you know, normal operations of the body. So th- this was kind of a well-known thing, and it was incorporated into what they were doing. And those, those... All those pieces when you put them together, they're like, "Okay, something's going on here, and it's probably something that we should look into.
**Unknown:** If, if this is deliberately getting suppressed, and there's, there's probably a financial component for that, we should definitely look into this." Yeah. It's, uh, it's easy to see what, what created that shift- Yeah ... when you, when you dive that deep. You do enough digging and it's not a lot.
**Unknown:** You're like, "Okay." Nope. It's, that makes sense. Yeah. So when, when looking at ancient history, cymatics, vibration, sacred geometry, we haven't talked a lot about quantum physics, but quantum physics is a piece that kind of ties all of that in.
**Unknown:** Um, how would you... And I, this comes back to the books that you wrote, but like where would you say that somebody should start their journey and then kinda like continue forward? Like, should they start with ancient history first, or they start, you know, reading vibration and Tesla stuff? Like, where should they start and kinda go from there?
**Unknown:** So that's why I, I made the whole channel for that reason, my, my pages on Instagram, 'cause I don't know. That's the question. That's like I don't, I don't know what interests you because I got bored and I was looking into the pyramids. That's literally what I...
**Unknown:** I, I mean, I had a knowledge of engineering and stuff before that, like I said, but I wouldn't have looked into sacred geometry first. I, I really wouldn't. I would've been like, "That's loony stuff," you know? But like from my engineering background I w- I was like, "Okay, we ha- at this point, we have to know how the pyramids were built.
**Unknown:** There's no way we don't know how they did that. We're the most advanced civilization that's ever been here. We have to know," right? Air quotes.
**Unknown:** But they, they... Yeah, and once you get into that, that's why everyone that l- everyone that has an argument on my socials about like pyramids or, or megalithic stuff, I'm like, "Welcome to the rabbit hole, dude," 'cause you s- you have one question, someone comes back at you with an argument, and then you have to defend that. And then once you take that step, you're go- you're done. You, you start looking into it and you're like, "Wait, hold on.
**Unknown:** What?" 'Cause the one thing that they're arguing about is one piece of like a million other things that, that they did that we cannot explain. And so that to me is like, that, that's a real eyeopener, and I think it hits hardest because then you start to have that, "Oh, I've been lied to my whole life" epiphany, and then you get angry, and, and then you like start to hate the government and all this stuff. And like whatever. A- as long as you're moving up the emotional ladder here, you're gonna reach like, "Okay, I, maybe I should get my spiritual crap handled." That's, that to me, that's like the best gateway to it.
**Unknown:** But if you're already pretty aware and like you never really took those stories seriously, then I would say, yeah, sacred geometry's probably the most interesting thing that I'm into right now just because I find new stuff and new patterns literally every day about, you know, just the stuff that's all around you, which, that you can immediately interact with that, and especially cymatics and stuff. That's, that's the most interesting from an educational perspective, I would say. But, um, the, you know, the quantum and stuff, you kinda have to have a little bit of a background in science to, to, to really piece those things together. It's kind of a hard thing to...
**Unknown:** When someone says quantum energy- When you get into quantum, like there is no energy. Yeah. It's just a probability. Yeah.
**Unknown:** And you're like, "What? I fucking spent all this time studying energy, and now you're telling me there is no energy?" Exactly. Your degree's worthless. So- Yep.
**Unknown:** That'll, that'll be a different podcast. It will be. Just on the quantum. For s- for people who are into, like, science and stuff, uh, that's why I talk about the, the quantum, is because my background's in- That's where I started.
**Unknown:** I started with the quantum- Yeah ... and that led me to everything else. Um- Yeah, there's different doors, but- Yeah ... I think they all lead to the same place.
**Unknown:** Yep. Love. Yeah. Exactly.
**Unknown:** You have to. I mean, that's, that's what... I mean, it's funny 'cause I always judge myself for, like, being woo-woo and, like, talking about love for a while, and I guess we'll, we'll wrap it up with, with, with this concept of love, is that, you know, love, the best definition I've found scientifically of love is love is the synthesis and synchronicity of opposites. So you're- Yeah ...
**Unknown:** you're collapsing that inverse wavelength with the polarized opposites of the two, like happiness and sadness. You can't have one without the other. Einstein taught us for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. So love is that combination of everything, of both of those- I also- ...
**Unknown:** at that exact synchronous moment. And when we can actually get our awareness to be balanced and perceived, that balances the brainwave activity that actually opens up the heart and allows us to be grateful. And then if we do it strong enough, we have a tear of gratitude. Yep.
**Unknown:** And that heals. I, I think there's a... That kinda turns some people off, the, the, the whole, the love thing. Uh, and it's not...
**Unknown:** I got, I gotta make a distinction on this one too, because it's not like a love you feel for a partner or a family member. It's different than that. I, I would, I would say it's like a general love for life. That would be consciousness.
**Unknown:** It would be the, the love for being here. 'Cause, like, you don't... You wake up every day and, you know, sometimes maybe you have a bad day, maybe you have a good day, but either way I still wanna see what happens, and that's the love. You know?
**Unknown:** That's, that's what we're, we're pushing. And if you can't, if you can't connect with that and you don't have that, then you remove yourself from the possibility of learning anything new. Because if you don't love it, then you're not going to have the, the pathways, like we were talking about, to, to even consider that there is something else out there, there is something more that you can, you know, discover, and that's what you're kinda here to do. Ignorance is a conscious, a conscious decision not to accept knowledge, right?
**Unknown:** And if you're ignorant, you're leaving yourself vulnerable, first off, but it's, it's different from nescience too. Like, that, n- not having the information, nescience is not having the, the information available to you. That's not ignorance. Ignorance is being presented with fast food is gonna kill you, and then you still eat fast food.
**Unknown:** That's ignorance. So ignorance allows you to go down the bad paths, where love opens you up to knowledge because you're open to new ideas. You're open to see if these things are true because you're like, "Well, if it is true, it could benefit my life," you know? So I- that's the love that we're talking about.
**Unknown:** It's not like the, you know, go hug a tree and love it. You can hug all the trees you want, but, like, this is like the prac- Not, not a bad thing. But no, that's- It's not a bad thing ... that's superficial love.
**Unknown:** You could probably hug more trees. Like, that's a... Not even, it's like, say, like, your values, that's superficial love 'cause everybody- Yeah ... has a different set of values, and that's what creates the balance.
**Unknown:** Like, and we think of something being good or bad, we'll save that for the quantum talk for the- Yeah. ... it's all, all, all the things. But, like- Right ...
**Unknown:** it's just everything in life, the more we can, you know, scribe this data into knowledge and then take action and, you know, receive wisdom, that wisdom is right in alignment with that universal love, that universal consciousness that, that there's, there's no mistakes. There's literally everything is perfect. It's just all in here to guide us into being our best version of ourselves. And that's why the feelings, like you're saying, the feelings are actually what actually matters, is once...
**Unknown:** If you don't have the heart component to it, you don't have the feeling behind it, you don't make memories without feelings, you don't go after anything without feelings. You have to unlock that first to link it up with your brain to make the, the logical conscious decisions to go in that path that you want. So the, literally the first step is unlocking the, the, the love that we're talking about here. It's unlocking a passion for wanting to actually do something with the time that you were given here.
**Unknown:** Which isn't very long. No, it's not. Awesome, brother. Well, I've enjoyed this time and space with you.
**Unknown:** Hopefully, listeners, if you loving the concept of ancient history, cymatics, vibrations, frequency, all the fun, crazy shit, definitely look up... Tyler's, we'll have his information in the show notes. Um, but like I said, I have a couple of his books, and I highly encourage you to check them out. They have helped me gain some clarity and that confidence in everything, so yes.
**Unknown:** Appreciate that. Thank you for taking the time to create that for everyone. Thank you for having me here. I had a great time.
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