Episode 241
Title: Quantum Insights: Exploring the Nexus of Science and Spirituality
Host: Dr. Nick Carruthers & Tyler Engle
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Transcription:
Dr. Nick (00:01.633)
Welcome back to another episode of Integrative You Radio. We are blessed for the second time to have Tyler from Base Forge with us. If you haven’t checked him out on social media, I follow him, and I look at his posts every single day. He likes to be a little disruptive and controversial, so if that intrigues you, definitely check him out. I was introduced to Tyler early on when I got his original Codex Esoterica, and he’s just about to release the sequel to that, right?
Tyler (01:22.983)
I’ll see you later.
Dr. Nick (01:25.685)
So pay attention, because we’re going to dive deep into what the body really is. It's space, and it’s quantum. Tyler, you know a lot more about the quantum realm and quantum physics than most people. Let’s start by keeping it simple. What is the quantum realm?
Tyler (01:43.41)
I’m going to start off by saying I’m not an expert. I don’t have a degree in quantum science. I just study it a lot, but...
Dr. Nick (01:49.173)
Even the experts in quantum science, quantum mechanics, say that nobody really knows anything.
Tyler (01:52.534)
Exactly. They’ll do an experiment, learn one thing, and end up with 99 other questions. So, we’re all in the same boat. Just relax—it’s not that serious. Honestly, I went to school for engineering, and quantum is actually easier to understand than traditional physics in some ways. There are simple rules. It raises a lot of questions, but you don’t need to know calculus to understand quantum concepts. I think that’s why it’s becoming such a popular topic; it’s very easily explainable to most people. In terms of the basics, we’re talking about particles that make up atoms. That’s the whole project of CERN and particle colliders: to discover what’s happening in the space that makes up 99.99% of us.
Dr. Nick (03:00.697)
So, one way to think about it would be that the quantum realm is understanding the space that actually dictates the expression of the Newtonian particle?
Tyler (03:11.982)
Correct. That would be a good way to explain it. The problem is, it’s like religion—no two people believe the same thing. Ask one pastor what a passage means, and another will tell you something completely different. The same goes for quantum; you’ll get different perspectives.
Dr. Nick (03:28.417)
Yeah, it varies from person to person, even within Christianity. Everyone has a different viewpoint.
Tyler (03:41.81)
It’s getting to that point with the quantum world too. Whenever I post something about it, some people really enjoy it, while others studying quantum physics in university will say, “That’s not how it works.” Maybe mathematically, I’m off by a decimal point in my explanation, but for most people trying to understand it, it works. I think communities are butting heads because the quantum people are studying the universe and reality, while the spiritual people are saying, “Yeah, so are we.” They’re talking about the same thing but from different perspectives. The spiritual side of quantum is the practical side, in my opinion.
Dr. Nick (04:28.579)
Yep.
Tyler (04:36.862)
We’ll see if quantum computers will be good for humanity, but the spiritual side—what you’re doing and what I try to explain on my channel—that’s what people can use for their mental, physical, and emotional health. It’s a concept that helps make decisions easier in that sense.
Dr. Nick (05:01.657)
So, why does understanding the quantum and using it serve us?
Tyler (05:10.018)
Well, this is where the spiritual side comes in. Everyone talks about quantum entanglement—how measuring one particle can tell you the state of its entangled partner. But there’s no communication between them. The spiritual community sometimes runs with this idea, saying you can meditate and manifest a Lamborghini in your driveway, but that’s breaking the rules. The no-communication theorem says you can’t pass information between entangled particles; you can only tell their state. It’s like a transistor in computers—it saves the state of a circuit. The spiritual community says, “You are the tech.” You don’t need tech as much as you need to fix yourself because you are the tech.
Dr. Nick (07:16.989)
I think we need both—tech to gain conscious awareness of creation outside of us, but also an understanding that helps us better understand ourselves.
Tyler (07:25.472)
Absolutely.
Tyler (07:36.99)
It’s really cool because the research going into quantum is unprecedented. It’s like when countries come together to figure things out, like the space station. That’s the beautiful side of tech, but if tech gets too developed, we might face ethical concerns. However, the spiritual side of quantum is crucial for everyday health.
Dr. Nick (08:30.473)
I could argue that we’d be equally set free with that knowledge.
Tyler (08:34.11)
True, it depends on your perspective. But most people fear that tech might get out of control. I’m trying to dispel that fear while having faith in the people doing this work. There’s always an ethical component, but I’d rather focus on the implications for health.
Dr. Nick (08:53.601)
Maybe at the end, we’ll talk about tech. For now, let’s focus on health. You mentioned you love symbolism, sacred geometry, and cymatics. I’ve been using a water container with the flower of life on it, and I’ve noticed amazing effects. The sun reflects off it and activates part of my brain during meditation. Yesterday, I meditated with my eyes open, focusing on the flower of life. I saw cubes and geometric patterns, and I wasn’t on any drugs—just water. Today, I woke up feeling different.
Tyler (12:26.314)
What you experienced isn’t unique. People often see shapes that do things they can’t explain. It’s like looking at a foreign language you can’t read. When you see geometric forms, unless you understand them, they won’t mean anything to you. The flower of life has spiritual and geometric significance—our measurements come from it. You can derive all the platonic solids from Metatron’s cube, which comes from the flower of life. There’s deep symbology encoded in these things.
Dr. Nick (14:00.269)
Yeah, it’s a great conversation starter.
Tyler (14:21.066)
Exactly. You know what it means. It’s not just a decorative holder for your water. There’s conscious connection with the symbols and the water. Every ancient culture had a way of purifying and keeping water in motion, often using spirals or patterns that rotate the water. This aligns with the research on exclusion zone (EZ) water—water that’s aligned perfectly has a ton of energy.
Dr. Nick (15:42.541)
Yes, Dr. Gerald Pollack wrote about EZ water. It’s like a quartz crystalline structure.
It’s a liquid gelatinous quartz crystalline structure. When you get cut, you bleed blood, but you’re not bleeding water because it’s in that gelatinous form. That’s how water moves information through the body. Our fascia is also a quartz crystalline structure, acting as a form of EZ water—a constantly rotating hexagonal structure that creates a vacuum tunnel. That’s what our meridians are—highways for non-physical information running through this EZ water.
Tyler (20:43.534)
You can take it even more simply—what does energy travel fastest through? Solids. So, the closer you get to a solid, the more efficiently you can transmit vibration or anything on the electromagnetic spectrum. That’s why infrared saunas are so good for you. The infrared turns your body into EZ water, which is why saunas have been used for thousands of years.
Dr. Nick (21:31.125)
Right. Not to go off on a tangent, but speaking of energy, Tesla's theory on free energy was misunderstood. People tried to reproduce it through the air, but he was actually trying to transmit it through the Earth, which is the best conductor.
Tyler (22:05.367)
Exactly, Tesla was using the Earth. That’s why all cathedrals and pyramids are built above water sources. It’s connected to the Earth and water, which is essential. Tesla’s tower had a grounding system as deep as the tower was tall. It wasn’t about wireless transmission; it was about using the ground as a conductor. Wireless transmission is inefficient because the molecules in the air are too far apart. Nature’s efficiencies are something we need to rediscover.
Dr. Nick (23:49.757)
Right, and we can apply that same concept to ourselves because we’re just big batteries.
Tyler (24:02.942)
Yes, and back to your water container with the flower of life and light reflecting off it—it’s creating patterns in the cubes and geometries you’re seeing. Many people have similar experiences. Patterns are everywhere in nature, and understanding them can make everyday life more profound.
Dr. Nick (25:24.053)
And I woke up today feeling like a different person. My brain feels different, and I’m detoxing. I’ll give it a few days and do it again.
Tyler (25:37.113)
You’re a new man. That’s the power of geometry. Sacred geometry might have a stigma, but once you understand the meaning behind it, your view of the world changes. You start to see patterns in everything, from trees to mountains. Geometry on a quantum level is the same at every scale. Understanding that helps you see the order and harmony in nature.
Dr. Nick (27:42.885)
It’s like “know thyself.” The journey is about realizing that nothing is separate, that we’re all one. When you understand that, it changes your perception of yourself and the world. It pulls you out of fear and worry and helps you connect to your truth.
Tyler (28:37.67)
Absolutely. You’re right—what’s the number one cause of illness? Stress. Stress comes from a lack of understanding or a lack of efficiency. The key is to focus on order, which fundamentally is geometry. Once you see that everything is connected from the quantum level to the macro level, you realize that nature has always followed these rules. The more we learn from nature, the better off we’ll be.
Dr. Nick (52:54.289)
And that will completely change your physical life in this reality.
Tyler (52:59.998)
Yes, and that gives you the tools to steer your life instead of drifting through it. Order and clarity of thought are key, and that starts with understanding the quantum. It’s the first step toward taking control of your health and life.
