Episode 238
Title: The flaws in data and science that are making us sick
Host: Dr. Nick Carruthers & Tyler Engle
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Transcription:
Dr. Nick (00:01.503)
All right, welcome back to another episode of Integrative You Radio. Today, we are blessed with the presence of Tyler Engel, who has spent a lot of time, energy, and money mastering some unique concepts that most people don't care about. This includes vibrational medicine, vibrational energy, frequency, quantum physics, ancient history, and Cymatics, which he is hugely geeky about.
And I'm fascinated with all these things. Coming from my doctor brain, everything is just energy, and all energy shows up in patterns. When I realized that, I understood that sicknesses will show up in patterns, symptoms will show up in patterns and cycles. That's what really drove me into understanding vibrational energy frequencies because if we don't go back far enough, kind of peel the layers of an onion, we never stop the cycle from occurring again. When I ran onto your social media page, I was instantly bromanced, and I gobbled up everything and purchased some of your books. So if you're into this stuff, he's written some awesome, really easy books to go through, but they're not just simple; they're easy to read and understand, but they're complex, you know, information, so definitely check it out.
So if I missed anything in there, how you want to introduce yourself, Tyler, definitely add to that.
Tyler (01:35.394)
That was an excellent intro, man. You hit almost all the bases. Yeah, I am a musician as well. I'm planning a tour, if you're into electronic music this year. So I will be announcing that on socials, but other than that, yeah, you nailed it right on the head.
Dr. Nick (01:50.583)
And you're creating a track with some visuals, right? I think I saw it on the post. Yeah, yeah.
Tyler (01:53.906)
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I'm working with a lot of visual artists. I can make my own, but there are a lot of really talented people out there. And I'm trying to work with as many as possible to create an experience like what you would get in my book, but way more entertaining and way louder. That's the goal. Yeah.
Dr. Nick (02:13.039)
We need the decibels to wake up this time and age. You know, if it's not going to shock you, it's kind of just like, oh well, we're going to walk on by and entertain me.
Tyler (02:17.758)
Yeah. That's how I hook you first.
Dr. Nick (02:28.807)
So diving into patterns, what would you say is the first primary most important thing to try to understand when it comes to pattern recognition?
Tyler (02:41.378)
Uh, sacred geometry for sure. That's hands down. Um, just because the concepts are so easy to understand. And with cymatics and stuff like that, it's really easy to teach, especially to kids and to people who have never encountered it before, because it's really engaging. You know, if you have a whiteboard and you're drawing out stuff in front of kids, they're going to fall asleep because it's not really that engaging. But if you have a speaker with some water on it or a subwoofer and you're pumping a whole lot of energy into that water and the water is making crazy shapes, you're like, Whoa, hold on, what's going on here? That's, I think, is far more effective teaching this stuff than anything else. And at the fundamental level of everything that we're experiencing right now is all geometry. And if you understand that...
Dr. Nick (03:29.327)
So when you talk about sacred geometry, like to somebody that's never heard of that before, like what does sacred geometry mean compared to just regular geometry?
Tyler (03:39.234)
So traditional geometry, when I learned traditional geometry, I thought it was just the relation of shapes to mathematics. But sacred geometry is a little different. Sacred geometry is that, but it's how the universe or how reality that you live in, the patterns that you see every day, like if the golden ratio, the seeds in sunflowers, the rings of a tree, the ripples in a pond, they all do that for a reason. They don't just happen randomly.
There's a pattern there, and there's a reason why that pattern occurs. And sacred geometry is the study of why those patterns occur and how they relate to us as beings and the universe as a whole. So it's more of geometry for philosophy. It integrates everything instead of just the math.
Dr. Nick (04:29.527)
Yeah. When I was kind of explaining it, just taking it, you know, as a doctor, we go through when we try to figure out the root cause of something. And it's like, well, at the root cause of creation, we have sacred geometry. It's the fundamental building blocks of how nature creates everything. Even the Fibonacci sequence of like the body and like from the fingers down to the hand, to the arm, you know, the whole thing to like everything follows universal laws and that sacred geometry is those building blocks. You can think about like building life together.
Tyler (05:05.546)
Yeah. And it's an elegant system. I think it's really easy to understand because, well, when I was in college, I was trying to relate all of these different things, all of the subjects I was taking to the different things, you know, like, what is this knowledge? What is the base of this knowledge going to give me? You know, like, I have all these pieces, but what can I use with all of the pieces? And I didn't use anything with my degree.
Like that. In terms of sacred geometry, I was like, oh, I can really relate this to this, you know, like, at a fundamental level, this thing over here can affect my diet, you know, this shape over here can affect how I sleep. Like, all of it, once you know how it's all connected, makes it really easy to learn, because you don't have to compartmentalize your learning. It's all the same thing. So that, to me, was the biggest benefit of it. And like the biggest epiphany I had once I started learning, looking at the patterns.
Dr. Nick (06:03.311)
So before I get into the next question, I do want to put a disclaimer out. If you're listening to this on a normal podcast, you might want to go onto YouTube to watch it. So you can actually see the videos because Tyler's also going to be probably dropping in as he usually does on a social media, some very cool pictures or some short clips to be able to better understand things. As most of us are visual learners. So the second question is, so secret geometry is like the foundation of creating the shapes of cymatics.
Tyler (06:22.622)
Absolutely.
Dr. Nick (06:32.163)
What's cymatics and why is that so important?
Tyler (06:35.15)
So, cymatics is visualizing sound waves through a particular medium. It doesn't necessarily have to be water. There's a thing called a Chladni plate. You can create standing waves on a flat piece of metal by drawing a bow string, like a violin bow, across it, and it creates these patterns. This was discovered in the 1800s, and it was experimented long before that. Discovered is a loose term for this, but this goes back all the way to...
The dawn of recorded history. All these patterns occur on the oldest buildings that we have, so it's kind of a, it's a pretty well-studied field. And now we're getting into some really cool stuff. Posted a couple of videos about bubble cymatics and they can create some 4D shapes, which is pretty sweet. And then plasma cymatics, which is pretty, it's not new if you've seen a Tesla coil play music, that's plasma cymatics, but now we're able to manipulate fire with high voltage and a whole bunch of other cool things where you can...
Modulate a signal through a medium like plasma that's very, it's like a gas, you know, so it can move really quickly and you can see a lot more detail in the frequencies versus like water where you have to kind of pump a very clean sine wave through this dish on a speaker to see the patterns. The fire, you can kind of get really crazy now and we're starting to see a lot more detail and how it interacts with the natural world with the plasma. So that's...
I'm really into that, I'll be posting a lot about that soon. But Cymatics is probably the most engaging content I have for that reason is because it's natural and it looks like magic sometimes.
Dr. Nick (08:14.371)
This, I mean, I understood it, but when I saw the post and I forget who you reposted the video from, uh, the science of somebody that taken, um, the semantics of different vibrations. And then that was in a two-dimensional and then they use a computer program and put it into a three-dimensional. And then through that layer, they put, um, different colors through it.
And then they overlapped it and put it together. And it was like this baby's face. And it was just like my mind blown. I'm like, Oh, this is so simple. Like our body is literally just this combination of these different frequencies coming up to a unity expression of thyself. And then it's just, it's
Tyler (08:50.098)
Next.
Tyler (08:54.445)
Yeah.
Tyler (09:00.962)
Granted, Petros is an excellent color mixer there. You can't really do that with normal cymatics. He is a very talented artist, but the concept, yeah, is insane, right? Like if you think about yourself as a cross-section of just different layers, it kind of makes a little more sense.
Dr. Nick (09:05.551)
Hehehehe
Dr. Nick (09:12.962)
Yeah.
Dr. Nick (09:16.759)
Well, there's, uh, I'm, I forget this too, but this is completely off topic, but there's this, um, artists that would literally take sheets of glass and he'd put like flowers, like real actual, um, specimens, organs, plants on it, and then put another sheet of glass and would do it and it would create like this three D, uh, structure and they're like, they're
Tyler (09:38.99)
I've seen those.
Dr. Nick (09:41.647)
Massively heavy, but like from all these different, whatever they're putting in flowers, et cetera, like he'll put in puzzle pieces, like all these different things. He'll create like a human body and you'll look at it and like that looks like a human body and then you look closer and you're like, that flower has its own design within it and the puzzle pieces connect to make its own design. And you're just like that complexity of awareness just blew my mind. Like, but it's kind of like the cymatics making up of who we are. It's just all these.
Tyler (09:43.159)
Yeah.
Tyler (10:06.4)
Inside.
Dr. Nick (10:10.819)
Like, cause you're, I always joke, but we're a universe, you know, our organ systems are like different planets and we have literally chakras that are connected to different planets. And it's like, so we have all of these different literally, you know, the entire universe as above, so below that we're the microcosm living in the big macrocosm. But like we have that power that we're not, most of us aren't aware of to be able to dictate the expression.
Of each one of those systems. And that's the understanding of the semantics. That's what gets me crazy passionate and fired up about, there's some mathematics to this.
Tyler (10:42.794)
You're good.
Tyler (10:54.722)
There's potential. Yeah. Your, your body, all of your, you have what 70 trillion cells inside of your body. Yeah, you have quite a few and all of them if I want them
Dr. Nick (11:00.205)
A few, yeah.
Almost as much as the US national debt today. Almost.
Tyler (11:07.698)
Almost. But if you want to tell them to curl your hand into a fist, they listen to you, you know, that's, that's the mechanical system responding to you as the controller of that mechanical system, right, like bio mechanical system. But they all have their if you, you know, if you get cut or something, and you take a cell of your hand and look at it under a microscope, it still functions for a while on its own, it still knows how to how to survive on its own.
But it needs somebody to command it and that is you. And the level of command, this is what's interested me the most out of all of this. The level, what is the potential here? Where does that end? What is the limit of the human ability to control that energy? What is the, where does the mind stop? You what?
Dr. Nick (11:52.955)
It's just awareness, I would assume. Yeah, isn't it just awareness?
Tyler (11:58.514)
Yeah, but what's the like, there's, there's huge potential for, I mean, you know, very well, placebo and all of these, these phenomena that are not explainable, what are it will, if they're not explainable, and we have to have controlled tests against placebo, then why don't we focus on learning how to use the placebo, you know, for anything, literally anything, because I know, like, especially that is money. Yeah. But
Dr. Nick (12:19.987)
Well, I mean, that's money. We know why. Yeah.
Tyler (12:25.09)
There's other things too, other than medicine. Like I know what the, say I go to the gym and I have a, you know, I'm not really in it that day. And I go just to go through the motions. The next day I'm probably like not sore at all. But if I go to the gym with an intention, I'm like, I'm gonna, you know, really hit abs today. And I really focus on it. And I really put all that energy into it. The next day I can't even walk, you know, I can't even stand up straight. Cause you're, that's energy directed into an intention. And that's what a huge part of.
What I write in my books is about that, is it's nice to have this fundamental understanding of geometry and vibration, but that is kind of useless if you're not gonna do anything with it. So a lot of the last half of the codex in the first book I wrote is just how to use that, just how to kind of get in control of the power that you have and use it.
Dr. Nick (13:15.587)
And that's the fun part about it is, I mean, we're all either usually more left brain or more right brain, but you don't have to master the other one to be able to use this. It's like, you don't have to understand how all this works. Like we both geek out about it because it's fascinating, but you don't have to understand it to be able to use, to use it to work for you and it's free. It's very, I mean, it takes some, some time to kind of flip that switch and programming, but that's.
Tyler (13:28.284)
No.
Tyler (13:34.934)
And it's free. That's the best part. It's yeah.
Dr. Nick (13:43.363)
That's also a lie because that goes back just to the intensity of our belief system.
Tyler (13:47.934)
I say that, well, time is relative, how much energy, if you want it to happen quicker, you could really focus on it and become an experienced meditator in a month. I would say it's a lifelong practice, but depending on how badly you want it, you can get it whatever speed is within the reasonable limits of reality. I think you could start using this almost immediately. I know if I haven't meditated in a while and I go back to it, then I...
Immediately one I pick it back up like I never left but I immediately recognize the benefits of it and I'm like, okay This is why I've been foggy a lot lately is because I haven't taken the time to empty out the trash, you know
Dr. Nick (14:28.503)
Yep. And it's like, I mean, it shouldn't be used for this, but sometimes I do. It was like, I don't have to sleep very much if I'm meditating a lot. So if I delegate a lot of sleep with some extra meditation, it's just like, I'm still more in alignment. I'm still more vibrant. I'm still more on purpose, like all of these things then, and like, if I'm getting nine hours of sleep and then I'm like, you know, not doing anything, cause it's that's a, that I don't know if it's 80, 20, what the, you think there's a percentage of like the internal.
Tyler (14:37.213)
I totally agree with that.
Tyler (14:46.063)
Yeah.
Dr. Nick (14:57.979)
Being aspect to that external doing that gives us that creation of the have.
Tyler (15:05.462)
I would say it's probably 80 20. I know if I sleep extra like too long, then I actually perform worse. My sweet spots, like six hours, if I can nail six hours and then I have a good 30 minute meditation during the day and I hit the gym, it's like, I can do whatever. There's nothing that like, if I have a to-do list, it's all getting done that day. If I miss it, you know, like my routine gets a little messed up, especially with like music, if I have like a gig that goes really late and throws that off.
Dr. Nick (15:23.832)
Yeah.
Tyler (15:31.614)
I have to really focus and be like, okay, we got to get back on this routine or you're going to have a crappy week next week.
Dr. Nick (15:41.615)
So when you think about meditation, cause I mean, I'm sure we have decent listeners that are meditating and some that are not, how does meditation play a role with.
Tyler (15:53.054)
Oh, you can measure it now. So they've I think it was, I don't want to quote the university because I don't have it right now. But they were doing a study on monks. And the in their ability to regulate the frequency of the brain is unnaturally good. So like they can take it from almost sleep state. And this is in an MRI machine, you know, like they're just a huge magnet flying around them reading their brain.
And they're able to go to almost sleep state to what we would consider flow state. And then now they've discovered that there's a lambda state above gamma that they can achieve that resembles a lot of like psychedelic experiences that people have when they get measured after, you know, less tragic acid or something like that. But the modulation of your brain waves is absolutely critical. Like trying...
Try and take a, you know, an ACT test at 8 a.m. in the morning. You're not going to do that hot, you know, like that's there's a lot of things that go into like performing at your at your best. And this is just even in work or relaxing and all has to do with modulating that frequency. And a lot of people don't know how to modulate it at all. Or they think it's random that they don't feel good today or like they can't focus or, you know, the massive.
ADHD problem that we have. It's not, I really don't believe in that. I just believe if there's an inability to control what gear your brain is in, because no one's taught this. And the and the Eastern philosophies, if you grew up in a house like that, you probably know. But even some of my friends that grew up in those households, their parents didn't teach them that either. And I rely on it every single day, I could not do anything that I do unless I have a pretty good habit of
Taming my mind because it wants to go off and explore all these wild conspiracy theories and do Cymatic experiments, but I gotta pay bills just like everybody else, so it is a beast.
Dr. Nick (17:51.352)
The mind is a beast that, um, it's, it's the part of that process to be able to, if you master your mind, your body follows suit.
Tyler (17:59.754)
It's there was an analogy of it was like a wild elephant. It's an Eastern analogy, but they relate the brain to an elephant. That's why Ganesh, if you look at some of the drawings of Ganesha, he resembles the cross section of the brain. And he had a lot to do with like taming those impulses. And if you can, it's like a horse. If you if you break the horse, it will be loyal and it will listen to you and it will perform what you need it to do.
Dr. Nick (18:20.026)
Mm-hmm.
Tyler (18:27.062)
But if you don't and you let it go wild, then it's not gonna be very useful to you. You probably won't even be able to write it unless it wants you to write it, you know?
Dr. Nick (18:35.691)
And you'll probably get bucked off. So I'm not gonna feel good.
Tyler (18:37.49)
And you definitely will.
Dr. Nick (18:40.803)
So going back to. Cymatics, you talked a little bit about the vibration and literally the vibration of just mainly so far of just how the brain works. Uh, so the brain and correct me if I'm wrong, cause you're definitely deeper at this book, your brain sending out a signal, a thought, and from that, our thoughts are what creates our feelings.
And our feelings is literally kind of like what I explained, like the magnetic force that's going out into the universe that we're attracting the same or similar energy right back into us for the feedback loop to see like, okay, am I in alignment with serving my authentic self or am I not in alignment with serving my authentic self? And this is kind of like what jumped me back with, like, when you're talking about ADD, the first thing I do with anybody I work with is get crystal clear on their hierarchy of values. So what's most important to them.
Every attentive disorder case is that they're just either don't see how it's serving them or they're doing something that's not in alignment with what's most important to them. So the brain's going to get distracted. There's no distraction. We don't care about pain and pleasure when we're loving ourselves, when we're giving what's most important to ourselves. We're just like in that flow state saying, this is fucking awesome. This is, this is what's most important to me. But anytime that we're outside of that, that creates a polarization charge.
Tyler (19:57.002)
Mm-hmm.
Dr. Nick (20:04.099)
Which alters the vibration and then that changes the form, the cymatics. So we're going to have some type of symptom, which is we think is bad, but it's really just a wake up call saying like, Hey, you probably are out of alignment.
Tyler (20:16.366)
It's an alarm, yeah. It's an alarm. So you're saying how do those, the vibrations affect the emotions? Is that?
Dr. Nick (20:25.559)
Well, I was going to ask you two things. One, going back to understand like those, the vibrations with the mind, because we were talking about that. But also I know you're into like technologies and different things. Like what things could you talk about that using like almost like energy? I don't want to call it energy medicine. Um, but it's like how we can use different technologies to also support our body and our mind through that vibration.
Tyler (20:53.602)
There's actually a lot of really cool new tech coming out about this. I say it's new tech, but it's really old tech that kind of has resurfaced. It's not new at all. There's, there's a lot of, a lot of people ask me about like right from machines and stuff like that, that use, um, manipulating magnetic fields to influence a certain part of the body. And there's really, really good research coming out that it is really effective. It's, it's going to take time to convince the medical community that you don't need a, uh,
Dr. Nick (21:01.059)
Nothing's new.
Tyler (21:23.638)
Pill based on hydrocarbons to fix a problem. But this is the world we live in. But these machines now, there's a key component to them. You have to be in alignment with that technology working. There's a belief component, because just as there's a placebo, there's a nocebo effect too. If I believe that this thing isn't going to help me, it's not going to help me. Your body responds.
The way you modulate your signals to your brain, it's translating everything down to your organs. You know, like every thought that gets that's here, you know, if I need to move my hand towards the screen needs to get translated into mechanical energy. So that has to get stepped down to every system in the body so that my hand can move, right? So there's a vibrational component to literally every process in the body. And about 14 years ago, they did some research. I can't remember the organization that did this.
But they isolated a bunch of viruses and they put them in chambers and they experimented with different frequencies and were able to break up leukemia and a couple other cells with just vibration. And that's the, that is the basis for like sound therapy or healing with that. But he was using like, like really high frequencies, like 300,000 Hertz, stuff like that for, for very small. You have to have that high of vibration for very small.
Dr. Nick (22:33.307)
I remember watching that Ted Talk, yeah.
Tyler (22:49.814)
Things, right? But the basis for traditional sound healing, the stuff that you can do at your home, is to have a carrier wave, like a bigger carrier wave. And when I say carrier wave, that means like a frequency within the audible range or a range that you can feel. That would be a carrier wave for a higher level healing frequency, like the ones that were used to hit the leukemia cells. So traditional sound therapy in terms of like...
Ancient culture and religious practice is finding those frequencies. If you say you have a block, like a, you know, an intestinal problem or something, there's a frequency that resonates with those specific cells. And there's one that's going to make it harmonious. And then there's one that's going to make it dissonant and dissonance is a chaotic signal. And like that last TikTok that I just posted, we were going over. If a signal is dissonant, your brain cannot tell the difference between what it means. It's like white noise.
If there's white noise over us talking, no one's gonna know what we're saying. They'd have to read our lips or something, right? But the fact that our mouths can create patterns through the air with sound and it hits your ear and you translate that back and then you respond, that's a communication, right? Your organs have the same thing. So sound therapy in that sense is finding the frequencies that resonate with that particular part of the body that maybe has a problem or needs healing.
And then injecting that essentially into the body to get those pieces into resonance and into alignment so that they can do their job instead of being blocked up.
Dr. Nick (24:28.887)
And what's powerful is that we can do that in both ways. We can do that through taking like the harmful one, figuring out what that is, and then creating the inverse to collapse that from showing up. And then at the same time, also giving what that organ system wants to resonate at for optimal health. So you can literally just using a vibration knock out what shouldn't be there.
Tyler (24:42.114)
Simple. Yeah.
Dr. Nick (24:55.939)
But then also figure out how to increase just the magnitude overall of that optimal vibration.
Tyler (25:03.242)
Like what you said before, when you're trying to figure out what the blockage was, that is the most important part because let's say you don't know what the blockage is and you're trying to heal or you're trying to have a certain experience, right? If you don't change the blockage, you're feeding that bad part, that the part that's making you sick, you're amplifying it, that it runs on that signal. And if you don't change it, say you constantly eat bad food and you have inflammation everywhere.
That is constantly giving those cells that run on that energy. So you can think of it in both ways, even with physical processes, it doesn't necessarily have to be a sound wave entering your body. Everything is still running off of some sort of vibration, whether that gets converted into chemical energy in your gut, or if it's mechanical energy going through the air, either way, there's an energy exchange and knowing where the good energies are and where the bad energies are is
Going to be the key to doing anything. It's going to be the key to modulating your brain state or going through therapies that are not invasive because within resonance, like if certain objects, tuning forks are tuned to a specific frequency, if I hit one of them and another one is around somewhere within the range of that wave, the other one's going to resonate, right? That's the same thing in the body. If there are bad cells all over the place in the body, traditional medicine would take a knife and try and cut those out of you.
But sound therapy and vibrational therapy just puts the vibration into your body and can break that up wherever they are. It's non-invasive. And I think that's gonna be a huge revolution when we start accepting that is effective.
Dr. Nick (26:42.027)
Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, getting into, well, I wanted to, I've never talked to you about this, but my next question is, I want to talk about some scalar therapies. Um, but before that talking about the patterns, and this is kind of, you know, after we learned something that seems so complex, but after we learn it, you're like, that just, that's makes perfect sense. It's kind of stupid. Why didn't I know this before?
But it's like, we always hear about a body and a mind and a spirit. And it's just like, you know, we have this physical body and energy always flows from non-physical into physical. So we have this physical body and we're trying to put so much energy and work on this physical body, but it's the last part of creation. So when understanding patterns, what shows up in the physical body, that pattern started higher up. So that pattern started up and disconnect from the mind to the body or from the spirit to the mind. And.
I talk about spirit being kind of like two different spirits, one, your internal spirit, and that's going to that values that I was mentioning. It's like the values is what's most important to you. Hence you're inspired. So if you're inspired and the mind's in alignment with literally thoughts that are inspiring you, allowing you to make decisions and take action on what's inspiring you. The body's going to have that pattern of self-love. And that's going to express that roughly 432 Hertz and
When we're outside of that alignment, then we're going to be polarized and we're going to have that vibration go down. And what's cool about, you know, Chinese understanding of they've mapped out a broad understanding of where these frequencies and energies are being stored within different tissues and organ system. And it's just like freaking amazing.
Tyler (28:22.186)
Mm-hmm. I keep on going.
Yeah, the arrogance of Western traditional advice on this, it kind of blows my mind because there's cultures in the East that have been studying all of this for literally thousands of years and we're a couple hundred years old with the stuff that we're using and then we're like, no, this is the better way. This is obviously it's the better way. There's a device that you can hold that you can do that. It's a very limited perspective if you don't know that they've been doing that for...
Hundreds of years and their life expectancy is pretty much the same, if not more than ours, in some areas, and they're using the same techniques that you just mentioned, it's just finding what's blocking and then removing the block. And that's, that not only removes the problem, it removes the problem from your life so that you can get into what you're saying, alignment. And if you can make your thoughts, words, and actions line up perfectly, one,
That's confidence. That is the embodiment of confidence and that allows you to do whatever you want. If you have a certain thing that you're trying to do, you know, and you have a thought that's like, well, I'm not, I'm not good enough. I'm not smart enough. I'm not whatever, you know, that's your block. You're not gonna ever go farther than that if you still have that block. And no one, everyone's like, you know, take a, take an Adderall, that'll fix it. Or take, you know, this, this thing's gonna just fix all your problems. Okay, well, what if they stop making that thing? What if they stop making your Adderall?
Forever, what if the pharmacies go out of business? What are you gonna do then?
Dr. Nick (29:54.243)
And it didn't fix the problem. It just fixed the change, the feeling. That's all it did. Yeah. So one of the, we're jumping all around. One of the things from what you're talking about, maybe it'll just be like, realize, you know, back in the day, we use these temples and these churches for healing and they're all designed through like creating cymatics and like, you know, even the different colored glass being tempered and
Tyler (29:56.782)
It temporarily, yeah, temporarily made you not feel like crap.
Dr. Nick (30:22.843)
3d dimension of it, how energy flows through all of that. And then having, you know, a being able to do, you know, a meditation or working mentally through as they're receiving that, like talk to me about some of the stuff that you've kind of uncovered from ancient history and that aspect.
Tyler (30:32.278)
Yeah.
Tyler (30:40.398)
Well, it's kind of it's an evolution too. You have to look at it like a the if the ruins that we do have the you know, oldest parts of our history. They're all built within a geometric proportion. It doesn't matter. I always tell people don't look at the walls. Don't look at what's written there. Don't look at the papers. Don't look at the books yet. Look at the geometry first because the geometry can't be changed. So if you're looking at the pyramids and stuff and everyone's like, oh, we don't know.
Blah, it's like, okay, that's something to focus on, yeah, but look at the geometry that's encoded in there because that's what the message is. And the geometry is going to have the harmonics encoded in it, that's literally the key to how to use them. So there's a girl, I can't remember her name, she did this study on cathedrals, which I would say if you're looking at all of this ancient stuff and going down that rabbit hole, you have.
You have the bookends of the pyramids, and then you have the cathedrals in your modern-day examples of these buildings. We don't really create anything like that anymore. So that's where that story ends. If you look at the cathedrals, this woman, she put a microphone into the cathedrals when they were dead silent, and they all have a resonance at dead silence. They are specifically tuned to a frequency.
And there's a lot of speculation on what that could be, but they also, they resonate within, their field that you can perceive, they resonate within the harmonics that are beautiful to our perception. And they are also beautiful to plants, they're beautiful to animals. Anyone that hears these noises, they recognize that this is not, this is something I need to pay attention to. This is not chaos, I don't need to run from this. What is making this? I need to pay attention. It feels good.
Dr. Nick (32:27.963)
This feels good.
Tyler (32:30.826)
So when you're looking really deep into Egypt, for example, they have a temple called the Assyrian, and it's all megalithic granite with huge rooms, and all of the rooms are tuned to a specific frequency, and some of them even had places that looked like for a bed or something. You know, someone would go in there for some sort of purpose. So the...
Dr. Nick (32:49.632)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Tyler (32:55.638)
The, if you, if you read the native story or the, the wisdom keepers of Egypt, tell you that it was for healing the people that dug out the temple will tell you that it's for burials. But, but there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of water. There's a lot of, there's things in that temple that are not like, why would you put that there? If the guy's just going to be in a coffin, you know, it doesn't make sense. Why do you have a 10-ton block over your head when you could have built it out of little bricks? You know, it doesn't make sense.
Dr. Nick (33:07.451)
That doesn't make any sense. Yeah.
Tyler (33:23.838)
So those things, in my opinion, they went there for priests and priestesses who knew what they were doing frequency wise and could manipulate those things as a conscious form of sound healing instead of like an electric form that we would consider today, where you hook up to sensors to a computer. The computer analyzes it and then gives you some sort of reading back about what's going on with those waves. Here, it was more of a that person knows.
Because they've done it before they've healed people this way and they can feel the resonances and they can control it versus the computer. They were the computer. Yeah. Exactly.
Dr. Nick (34:00.847)
They were the computer. Yeah. That's kind of like neurofeedback where you're getting feedback from the computer and you're trying to make a change based on, you know, focus intention, et cetera. But you're just doing that through that your deep connection with resonance or out of resonance. Oh, it'd be.
Tyler (34:18.038)
Yeah, because I mean, a doctor can tell you something, but you could still feel like, no, something's wrong. They can tell you you're healthy and you can be like, no, something feels not okay, you know?
Dr. Nick (34:22.391)
Yeah.
Dr. Nick (34:26.511)
Well, and you have to be at that level to be able to feel what's off. Like you can't. Yeah. I wonder if.
Tyler (34:30.062)
Do. But there's also the cathedrals too if um if you look really close especially a lot of the ones in um Italy they have uh they have
This is just my personal speculation because I know they were used for the public for one thing.
Dr. Nick (34:44.991)
I was just in Italy and I went into so many cathedrals like, and it's like, the energy was amazing. Like there's yeah, wild.
Tyler (34:48.992)
Oh.
Ridiculous, right? The scale and the precision and all of the, it's, it's not because they just wanted to glorify something, it's the people knew what they were doing. People that built it, that designed it are different than the people that built it. And the people that use it for the public are different than the people that use it in private. The people that use it in, there is, hit it. Yeah. If you know what you're looking for, you can tell the story very easily.
Dr. Nick (35:01.071)
Yep.
Dr. Nick (35:09.919)
Oh, because there's a lot of symbolism too, yeah. Ha ha ha. Yep. I was like, holy shit, you see that? Like, when was this made? Yeah, it's just... Yep, it's all there. It's wild.
Tyler (35:20.97)
But it's hidden in plain sight. Like that's the beauty of it. But they, I think they were also using a lot of plant medicine in the cathedrals as well, um, along with the resonance, because if you, if you do a lot of research into this, if you modulate your, your brain's frequency and you're clearly amplified by some compound, then your cognitive abilities are exponential. They're not linear. They're exponential because you're using.
A form like what you're talking about, a scalar wave, where it's amplifying, it's doubling, doubling. So it's literally, the conscious frequency is getting shot out of you almost. It's like, that's why we talk about like an astral body or like having an out of body experience means your consciousness is vibrating so high that it doesn't fit in your body anymore, essentially. And you can do other things with that.
Dr. Nick (36:17.111)
You're aware of being aware of being aware of being aware.
Tyler (36:20.85)
Meta meta. Meta of the meta.
Dr. Nick (36:25.335)
The, it'd be interesting if, did they have a, like a baseline frequency of those cathedrals? I was wondering if it was God's frequency, but 1.618.
Tyler (36:33.89)
They, yeah, different.
Tyler (36:38.434)
They do. And so I have a bunch of theories on this and I've never really posted about it because I try not to like dip into any areas that I'm not very, very sure of, you know, it kind of, I don't want to step on my own toes, but it appears that if you look at, this is, we're still on cathedrals here, the alignments of cathedrals are different than the alignments of, let's say like the pyramids and stuff, they serve different functions.
Dr. Nick (36:52.099)
Until you talk to me.
Tyler (37:07.042)
The cathedrals are like a 4D clock. The cathedrals have, they use the stained glass, they use the alignment of the structure, and they use the different chambers inside of the cathedral for different purposes. So at different times of year, which is why they don't, the builders of the cathedral didn't run on the Gregorian calendar either because the Gregorian calendar's off. Gregorian calendar's for taxes. They ran off of the celestial calendar. So when the alignments,
Hits, and a lot of cathedrals like Chartres, for example, the sun will go through a perfectly clear piece of glass in the cathedral, and it will hit certain bricks on the floor at certain times of the year. And so certain, when it hits on those things, they had certain ceremonies to do whatever they were doing. And so it's not only tuning it with the earth,
Dr. Nick (37:54.892)
Makes sense? Yeah.
Tyler (38:02.118)
And the body, it's also tuning it with the cosmos. Because the only culture that doesn't recognize that the cosmos has an influence on humanity is modern science. They're the only culture in history that's ever disregarded it completely and not played a factor in normal operations of the body. So this was kind of a well-known thing. And it was incorporated into what they were doing. And those. Those.
All those pieces when you put them together, like, okay, something's going on here. And it's probably something that we should look into. If, if this is deliberately getting suppressed and there's, there's probably a financial component for that, we should definitely look into this.
Dr. Nick (38:42.871)
Yeah, it's easy to see what created that shift when you dive back. No, that makes sense. So when looking at ancient history, cymatics, vibration, sacred geometry, we haven't talked a lot about quantum physics, but quantum physics is a piece that kind of ties all of that in. How would you?
Tyler (38:49.226)
Yeah. You do enough digging and it's not a lot. You're like, okay.
Yeah.
Dr. Nick (39:12.887)
And this comes back to the books that you wrote, but like, where would you say that somebody should start their journey and then kind of like continue forward? Like, should they start with ancient history first or the start, you know, reading vibration and Tesla stuff? Like where should they start and kind of go from there?
Tyler (39:31.394)
So that's why I made the whole channel for that reason. My page is on Instagram, because I don't know, that's the question. That's like, I don't know what interests you because I got bored and I was looking into the pyramids. That's literally what I, I mean, I had a knowledge of engineering and stuff before that, like I said, but I wouldn't have looked into sacred geometry first. I really wouldn't. I would have been like, that's loony stuff, you know? But like from my engineering background, I was like,
Okay, at this point, we have to know how the pyramids were built. There's no way we don't know how they did that. We're the most advanced civilization that's ever been here. We have to know, right? Air quotes. But they, yeah, and once you get into that, that's why everyone that has an argument on my socials about like pyramids or megalithic stuff, I'm like, welcome to the rabbit hole, dude, because you have one question, someone comes back at you with an argument, and then you have to defend that, and then once you take that step,
Dr. Nick (40:08.879)
Hehehe
Tyler (40:27.85)
You're done. You're done. You start looking into it and you're like, wait, hold on. What? Because the one thing that they're arguing about is one piece of like a million other things that they did that we cannot explain. And so that to me is like that's a real eye opener. And I think it hits hardest because then you start to have that, oh, I've been lied to my whole life epiphany. And then you get angry and then you start to hate the government and all this stuff and like whatever. As long as you're moving up the emotional ladder here.
You're gonna reach like, okay, maybe I should get my spiritual crap handled. That's that to me, that's like the best gateway to it. But if you're already pretty aware, and like you never really took those stories seriously, then I would say yeah, sacred geometry is probably the most interesting thing that I'm into right now, just because I find new stuff and new patterns, literally every day about, you know, just the stuff that's all around you.
Which you can immediately interact with that. And especially cymatics and stuff, that's the most interesting from an educational perspective, I would say. But the quantum and stuff, you kind of have to have a little bit of a background in science to really piece those things together. It's kind of a hard thing to, when someone says quantum, anything. Yeah.
Dr. Nick (41:39.919)
When you get into the quantum, there is no energy. It's just a probability. And you're like, what? I fucking spent all this time studying energy, and now you're telling me there is no energy? Yep, that'll be a different podcast. Just on the quantum.
Tyler (41:49.966)
Exactly, your degree is worthless. So, I think they will be. For people who are into like science and stuff, that's why I talk about the quantum is because my background is in the quantum. Yeah.
Dr. Nick (42:03.407)
That's where I started. I started with the quantum and that led me to everything else. Love.
Tyler (42:07.37)
Yeah, there are different doors, but I think they all lead to the same place.
Tyler (42:13.258)
Yeah, exactly. You have to.
Dr. Nick (42:16.163)
I mean, that's, that's what I mean. It's funny. Cause I always judge myself for like being woo and like talking about love for a while, and I guess we'll, we'll wrap it up with, with this concept of love is that love the best definition I've found scientifically of love is love is the synthesis and synchronicity of opposites. So you're, you're collapsing that inverse wavelength with the polarized opposites of the two, like
Tyler (42:37.57)
People.
Dr. Nick (42:44.655)
Happiness and sadness. You can't have one without the other. Einstein taught us every action. There's an equal and opposite reaction. So love is that combination of everything of both of those at that exact synchronous moment, and when we can actually get our awareness to be balanced and perceived, that balances the brainwave activity that actually opens up the heart and allows us to be grateful. And then if we do it strong enough, we have a tear of gratitude and that heals.
Tyler (42:55.328)
I also...
Tyler (43:13.834)
I think that kind of turns some people off the whole love thing. And it's not, I gotta make a distinction on this one too, because it's not like a love you feel for a partner or a family member, it's different than that. I would say it's like a general love for life. That would be consciousness. It would be the love for being here. Because like you wake up every day and sometimes maybe you have a bad day, maybe you have a good day, but either way, I still wanna see what happens. And that's the love.
You know, that's what we're pushing. And if you can't connect with that and you don't have that, then you remove yourself from the possibility of learning anything new. Because if you don't love it, then you're not going to have the pathways like we were talking about to even consider that there is something else out there. There is something more that you can discover and that's what you're kind of here to do. Ignorance is a conscious...
A conscious decision not to accept knowledge, right? And if you're ignorant, you're leaving yourself vulnerable first off, but it's different from netchance too. Like that, not having the information, netchance is not having the information available to you. That's not ignorance. Ignorance is being presented with, fast food is gonna kill you, and then you still eat fast food. That's ignorance. So ignorance allows you to go down the bad paths where love...
Opens you up to knowledge because you're open to new ideas. You're open to see if these things are true because you're like, well, if it is true, that could benefit my life, you know? So that's the love that we're talking about. It's not like the, you know, go hug a tree and love it. You can hug all the trees you want, but like, this is like the practical. It's not a bad thing. You should probably hug more trees.
Dr. Nick (44:55.107)
Not a, not a bad thing, but no, that's, that's superficial love. Like that's the, and I even tell you, say like your values, that's superficial love because everybody has a different set of values and that's what creates the balance, like, and we think of something being good or bad, we'll say that for the quantum talk, but it's all, all the things, but like, it's just everything in life, the more we can, you know, describe this data.
Tyler (45:13.064)
Yeah.
Dr. Nick (45:23.687)
Into knowledge and then take action of, you know, receive wisdom. That wisdom is right in alignment with that universal love, that universal consciousness, that there's no mistakes. There's literally everything is perfect. It's just all in here to guide us into being our best version of ourselves.
Tyler (45:45.354)
That's why the feelings like you're saying the feelings are actually what actually matters is Once if you don't have the heart component to it, you don't have the feeling behind it You don't make memories without feelings. You don't go after anything without feelings You have to unlock that first to link it up with your brain to make the logical conscious decisions to go in that path that you want so that literally the first step is unlocking the love that we're talking about here is
Unlocking a passion for wanting to actually do something with the time that you were given here.
Dr. Nick (46:20.739)
Which isn't very long. Awesome brother. Well, I've enjoyed this time and space with you. Hopefully listeners, if you loving the concept of ancient history, semantics, vibrations, frequency, all the fun, crazy shit, definitely look up. Tyler's will have his information in the show notes. Um, but like I said, I have a couple of his books and I highly encourage you to check them out. They have helped me gain some clarity and that confidence and everything. So yes, thank you for.
Tyler (46:22.25)
No, it's not.
Tyler (46:49.902)
Appreciate that.
Dr. Nick (46:50.863)
Taking the time to create that for everyone.
Tyler (46:53.226)
Thank you for having me here. I had a great time.
Dr. Nick (46:55.743)
Awesome. All right. Until next time, everybody."
